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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #480 on: June 18, 2013, 10:36:47 PM »
I know they want to push HDMI for the Xbox One, but component cables are still pretty high quality and there are a lot of people out there using them.

My TV doesn't have enough HDMI ports for all of my devices, so I still use component as well as HDMI.  When I did the research back when I bought my TV, everything said that HDMI and component produce equal quailty, and that whether one or the other looks better from a given device depends only on how optimized the device is for each output format. 

(Edited to fix my earlier mistake.  Kevadu also meant to say component.)
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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #481 on: June 18, 2013, 10:50:37 PM »
I know they want to push HDMI for the Xbox One, but composite cables are still pretty high quality and there are a lot of people out there using them.

My TV doesn't have enough HDMI ports for all of my devices, so I still use composite as well as HDMI.  When I did the research back when I bought my TV, everything said that HDMI and composite produce equal quailty, and that whether one or the other looks better from a given device depends only on how optimized the device is for each output format. 
Um....you guys realize composite is BASIC yellow video-red/white two channel audio, right? I assume you all mean component and are just mistyping.

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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #482 on: June 18, 2013, 10:54:25 PM »
Um....you guys realize composite is BASIC yellow video-red/white two channel audio, right? I assume you all mean component and are just mistyping.

Yeah, I was wondering what the fuck they were talking about. Component can be equal to HDMI, but composite? I can't stand it on my SNES to my HDTV, I have to use S-Video, then it just looks like the Vita's Bilinear filtering on PSP/PS1 games.

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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #483 on: June 18, 2013, 11:02:31 PM »
Um....you guys realize composite is BASIC yellow video-red/white two channel audio, right? I assume you all mean component and are just mistyping.

Oops - yes, that is indeed what I meant.
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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #484 on: June 18, 2013, 11:08:26 PM »
I know they want to push HDMI for the Xbox One, but composite cables are still pretty high quality and there are a lot of people out there using them.

My TV doesn't have enough HDMI ports for all of my devices, so I still use composite as well as HDMI.  When I did the research back when I bought my TV, everything said that HDMI and composite produce equal quailty, and that whether one or the other looks better from a given device depends only on how optimized the device is for each output format. 
Um....you guys realize composite is BASIC yellow video-red/white two channel audio, right? I assume you all mean component and are just mistyping.

I obviously meant component, sorry.  Got it right in every part of my big long post except for the one section Tooker had to go and quote ;)

Though I don't think the Wii U has optical out either.

Seriously?  I guess I'm not getting a Wii U...

Does it really matter for virtual console games and super smash bros. etc? Get a grip

Well, I guess using component is an option for the Wii U, and that has good old analog audio.  Though that likely means no 5.1.

It's a bigger problem on the new 360 since it doesn't even do component.

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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #485 on: June 19, 2013, 12:51:53 PM »
I really don't want an xbone but... some of the exclusives look promising...so far.

Time to start exercising restraint and responsibility?

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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #486 on: June 19, 2013, 01:26:33 PM »
This thread is too long for me to read so I don't know if it's been addressed but..Fuck XBox One and it's always on Kinect. I have heard a lot of rumors and conspiracies about how it will be used and if only 1% of them are true fuck this thing.
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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #487 on: June 19, 2013, 01:44:41 PM »
Daggerstrike...all of them are true.

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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #488 on: June 19, 2013, 01:58:39 PM »
No, you can turn off or pause the kinnect if the game or app doesn't use it.

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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #489 on: June 19, 2013, 02:19:47 PM »
What happened to the whole "camera and mic are on all the time even if you're not playing games?"  Did that go away?
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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #490 on: June 19, 2013, 02:31:54 PM »
What happened to the whole "camera and mic are on all the time even if you're not playing games?"  Did that go away?

No, Yoda is just wishing I think. Everything I have read indicates that the always on is truth. I don't need my Xbox seeing what I do in front of my TV and judging me.
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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #491 on: June 19, 2013, 02:47:25 PM »
What happened to the whole "camera and mic are on all the time even if you're not playing games?"  Did that go away?

No, Yoda is just wishing I think. Everything I have read indicates that the always on is truth. I don't need my Xbox seeing what I do in front of my TV and judging me.
It's not that it's always on but that it's always active. The system won't turn on without kinect hooked up, and therefore will not operate without it in use. Idk about halting its functions as currently the only way to turn it on is via voice command...

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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #492 on: June 19, 2013, 04:02:46 PM »
What happened to the whole "camera and mic are on all the time even if you're not playing games?"  Did that go away?

No, Yoda is just wishing I think. Everything I have read indicates that the always on is truth. I don't need my Xbox seeing what I do in front of my TV and judging me.


They say that you can shut it off and even disable the mic... but with forced updates and needing to have it plugged in at all times and the fact that they *can* enable it from their end the mention that it's going to transfer a lot of data on their pre-order requirements page made me laugh with all the conspiracy theories already going around.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/pre-order-xbox-one/disclaimer

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Kinect Sensor for Xbox One (included) and periodic system software updates required for continued use; significant updates may be required during set-up and over time (ISP fees apply).

"We swear, this is just the 3GB monthly patch."

My biggest issue with Kinect isn't the whole spying thing... it's being forced to buy an addon that I don't want. I'm mainly a RPGer... I bought Kinect with the hopes of running around swinging a sword or punching whales... none of the games that use Kinect are really my thing. I have one that was a failed investment, trying to force me to buy another just pisses me right off.

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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #493 on: June 19, 2013, 04:10:29 PM »
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/415414/microsoft-to-ditch-xbox-one-drm-and-always-online-policies-say-sources/

Interesting. I'd love to see them do this. It won't affect me totally having no interest in the console (seriously, nothing in their lineup makes me want one. I played Lost Odyssey on my 360 and Phantom Dust on my original Xbox. I'm not doing this dance a third time). But even so, it would be good overall for competition for them to do this.
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Re: XBOX: A New Generation Revealed, May 21st
« Reply #494 on: June 19, 2013, 04:26:55 PM »
Unfortunately, it won't matter quite as much as they want it to. People are already soured over Microsoft's poor handling of this entire console reveal.
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