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« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2013, 10:14:34 PM »

Knowing Squeenix though, they're going to try to preserve as much prebuild material as possible. So expect Falcie/Lcie nonsense, Etro bullshit, and that picture of Lightning in that art gallery regardless of the game becoming XVersus or not.
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« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2013, 10:25:21 PM »

Knowing Squeenix though, they're going to try to preserve as much prebuild material as possible. So expect Falcie/Lcie nonsense, Etro bullshit, and that picture of Lightning in that art gallery regardless of the game becoming XVersus or not.

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« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2013, 11:17:36 PM »

If Versus "becomes" XV then it wouldn't make any sense that it still uses stuff from the FNC mythology. Because a brand new FF from the main series is, you know, something brand new that doesn't have any direct correlation to past games.

But, giving Aeolus some benefit is better not to assume anything with SQEX until is official. So yeah. 50/50.
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« Reply #63 on: June 10, 2013, 12:06:10 AM »

I thought a big part of the purpose of FNC was to have a more coherent connection between FF titles. Naturally FFXIV already kind of broke that, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the mythology from XIII carried on through the rest of the franchise.
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« Reply #64 on: June 10, 2013, 12:11:10 AM »

"The connection between the Fabula Nova Crystallis games could be partly compared to the one that exists between games like Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy III, Final Fantasy IV and Final Fantasy V - different universes but roughly the same crystal mythos."

If Versus "becomes" XV then it wouldn't make any sense that it still uses stuff from the FNC mythology. Because a brand new FF from the main series is, you know, something brand new that doesn't have any direct correlation to past games.

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« Reply #65 on: June 10, 2013, 12:45:14 AM »

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If SQEX makes Versus be XV while still having the mythos nonsense that would mean that the whole point of the FNC series was to be expanded throughout the main series over time and not be contained to the series of "XIII" games and its extensions (novels, mangas, etc) that were announced back then (which was the original plan as far as I know).

Also, I'm tired of your shit SQEX. ;_;
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« Reply #66 on: June 10, 2013, 12:53:30 AM »

I doubt even S-E knows what they're doing with the FNC series.  They wanted to make three games with a common mythos, fine, but one of them was already renamed (yet retained the mythos) and the other got a bunch of previously unplanned sequels.  It's a mess.

Anyway, my point is that the mythos has nothing to do with the number 13.  S-E can call Versus whatever they want.
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« Reply #67 on: June 10, 2013, 09:05:10 AM »

I doubt even S-E knows what they're doing with the FNC series.  They wanted to make three games with a common mythos, fine, but one of them was already renamed (yet retained the mythos) and the other got a bunch of previously unplanned sequels.  It's a mess.

Anyway, my point is that the mythos has nothing to do with the number 13.  S-E can call Versus whatever they want.

And this is precisely why Squeenix should never be trusted with Compilations.

Besides, Squeenix proved how loathed they can be to discard pre-rendered cutscenes when they inserted that goofy ass scene at the end of the Casino Night Zone in FFXIII-1 let alone even having "Set Color Code to Blackwatch Plaid!" Jhil Naboopalin (or whatever) around given that I just described the sum total of her contributions to the events of the game in this very sentence before getting disposed of like a Red Shirt on Star Trek. And then there's Fang's gender getting stuck in Female because somebody did up a pre-rendered cutscene before Squeenix realized they could ignore Lightning's agency in the story to turn Fang/Vanille into the stealth main couple ala Vaan and Penelo in FFXII (and this is also the reason why there are cutscenes on Namek Australia Pulse).

Type-0 got away with the conversion because there was hardly anything there to begin with (and the cellphone idea was ludicrously unrealistic to begin with).

But despite all the jokes to the contrary, there have been pre-rendered stuff put on the table over the years (including ties to FFXIII-1). Its just a matter of how awkwardly they're going to shoehorn those scenes into the final game, XVersus or not.
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« Reply #68 on: June 10, 2013, 10:32:16 AM »

I doubt even S-E knows what they're doing with the FNC series.  They wanted to make three games with a common mythos, fine, but one of them was already renamed (yet retained the mythos) and the other got a bunch of previously unplanned sequels.  It's a mess.

Is hardly a mess considering the whole deal that happened with XIV.

Anyway, my point is that the mythos has nothing to do with the number 13.  S-E can call Versus whatever they want.

The FNC games still haven't been expanded into to the main series yet (which is a good thing if you ask me). But yeah it can happen even though SQEX has always showed the contrary for years now.
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« Reply #69 on: June 10, 2013, 06:03:48 PM »

I doubt even S-E knows what they're doing with the FNC series.  They wanted to make three games with a common mythos, fine, but one of them was already renamed (yet retained the mythos) and the other got a bunch of previously unplanned sequels.  It's a mess.

Is hardly a mess considering the whole deal that happened with XIV.


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« Reply #70 on: June 10, 2013, 10:18:42 PM »

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« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2013, 10:23:22 PM »

I loved that 15 trailer. I don't care if it was once V13; it totally blew away all my cynicism.
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« Reply #72 on: June 10, 2013, 10:28:39 PM »

Yeah, I have to frankly admit that traily was quite impressive.  I guess they've actually been doing something all these years.

And as I said in this thread already, renaming it to XV just makes so much more sense.
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« Reply #73 on: June 10, 2013, 10:34:29 PM »

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« Reply #74 on: June 10, 2013, 10:35:44 PM »

@Kevadu: Yes.

And with this announcement FNC is part of the main series now.
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