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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #135 on: September 17, 2014, 11:36:48 AM »
I actually thought it was pretty bad. The teaser promised us something that never really happened. I was expecting a creepy monster of the week episode, but we got something entirely not that
The story was all over the place, and made no sense.
There were a few good lines, and a few good moments, but the rest was just...ugh.
And I really wish the doctor would stop insulting Clara on her appearance! It's like a creepy old man trying to re-assure himself that he's not turned on by the hot young lady, when it's the exact opposite. It's mostly just mean, though, and serves no point in the story.
MaryAnns review explains pretty much how I saw this episode better than I can:
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I thought it was trying to have its cake and eat it too. It was trying to be a scary monster of the week episode but also be deliberately vague and you're right, it just ended up not making sense.

I agree with most of your friend's critique, but this - "• Let’s talk about the unintended creepiness of having an episode revolve around the Doctor bluffing his way into a home for vulnerable children in the middle of the night." is reading too much into it.

As for Capaldi, he is the best doctor since the show came back in 2005.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #136 on: September 19, 2014, 12:14:49 PM »
I only ever watched bits and pieces of both the new amd classic Doctor Who series (with the Matt Smith run being the significant part of the modern Doctor Who series that I've seen). I have to admit that I'm starting to get into it. Smith somehow managed to pull of a very likable and at times creepy character despite all signs indicating that he should be the Jar Jar Binks of Doctors. That's quite impressive. Capaldi somehow seems like the perfect fit and I'm looking forward to the new episodes. Clara is also fairly interesting and while I hope they do a little more with the "impossible girl" story arc there's always the danger they'll overcook it. All in all, Im a bit late to the party but catching up should be a blast.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #137 on: September 23, 2014, 01:41:43 AM »
Smith as the Jar Jar Binks of doctors....  I get it and I giggled, but that's still a pretty low comparison even if you think he dodged the bullet. x)

LOVED the latest episode.  I thought it was just a ton of fun and worked the 'Who-Formula' really well.  Capaldi is fast becoming a favourite doctor for me.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #138 on: September 29, 2014, 08:24:32 PM »
So someone just pointed this out to me...


Mind = blown

Another great episode and so far a pretty good season after a kind of rocky start.
Possibly the strangest way to tackle a love-triangle plot since Capaldi's character is so much different from Matt Smith's.  The villain was a write-off, but the interactions were perfect.

And also, Jenna Coleman has *massive*-sized eyes.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #139 on: September 29, 2014, 09:44:36 PM »
Wow, you are sure forgiving of this season. I thought this past episode was pretty weak. I'm really getting tired of how the current Doctor is written. He's far too mean, and apparently clueless about humans, despite interacting with them for many many years. What's the deal with calling Pink a P.E. teacher over and over again? Why is this not explained? And why is he so anti-soldier?
I don't buy into the "He only wants the best for Clara" explanation. He might as well be walking around with a shotgun to scare away the creeps from his little girl.
I don't blame Capaldi, or even Jenna. They're doing the best they can with the shitty scripts they're being given.
I'd rather they expounded on what was going in in the intro to the episode, and gone from there. Now THAT could have been interesting.
Oh, I could keep going forever, but I'll just stop. I'm just so bummed at the direction the show has headed. A couple decent eps, and the rest mediocre, and less than.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #140 on: September 30, 2014, 01:14:49 AM »
I think the P.E teacher might be a British specific joke. Here ex-army personal who work in schools are 99% P.E teachers, hence his disbelief that he is a Maths teacher.


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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #141 on: September 30, 2014, 01:20:45 AM »
I think the P.E teacher might be a British specific joke. Here ex-army personal who work in schools are 99% P.E teachers, hence his disbelief that he is a Maths teacher.

Ah...
Here in America, P.E teachers are old pedophiles.

(Fun fact, my primary school P.E teacher was arrested and jailed due to touching young boys)
(Following fact, I guess I wasn't his type)

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #142 on: September 30, 2014, 02:11:45 AM »
I think the P.E teacher might be a British specific joke. Here ex-army personal who work in schools are 99% P.E teachers, hence his disbelief that he is a Maths teacher.


Yeah the reaction from Gaf on that joke was pretty lost (many jumping to it being a racist thing [physical activity = a black thing] than a 'soldier thing'). 

IIRC the 'soldier-hating' was just 'cause the Doctor doesn't like them or guns, right?

I think the P.E teacher might be a British specific joke. Here ex-army personal who work in schools are 99% P.E teachers, hence his disbelief that he is a Maths teacher.

Ah...
Here in America, P.E teachers are old pedophiles.

(Fun fact, my primary school P.E teacher was arrested and jailed due to touching young boys)
(Following fact, I guess I wasn't his type)

Or lesbians, according to Clueless.  And my high school PE teacher.
... Either way, the PE joke is *still* terribly lost on us non-British aliens.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #143 on: September 30, 2014, 10:32:15 AM »
I think the P.E teacher might be a British specific joke. Here ex-army personal who work in schools are 99% P.E teachers, hence his disbelief that he is a Maths teacher.


Yeah the reaction from Gaf on that joke was pretty lost (many jumping to it being a racist thing [physical activity = a black thing] than a 'soldier thing'). 

IIRC the 'soldier-hating' was just 'cause the Doctor doesn't like them or guns, right?

I think the P.E teacher might be a British specific joke. Here ex-army personal who work in schools are 99% P.E teachers, hence his disbelief that he is a Maths teacher.

Ah...
Here in America, P.E teachers are old pedophiles.

(Fun fact, my primary school P.E teacher was arrested and jailed due to touching young boys)
(Following fact, I guess I wasn't his type)

Or lesbians, according to Clueless.  And my high school PE teacher.
... Either way, the PE joke is *still* terribly lost on us non-British aliens.



Ahhh, that explains it. I was thinking either soldier = dolt = p.e. teacher, or even the racist card as some others have, sadly, mentioned.
I'd still like a better explanation for the soldier business, because I don't recall that being such a big issue prior to this season.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #144 on: September 30, 2014, 10:36:20 AM »
I'm a bit baffled at the soldier stuff himself. Considering he was best friends with a guy from UNIT. :p

I'm sure it's leading up to his backstory of the Time War, either being a soldier or leading a battalion of soldiers.


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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #145 on: October 02, 2014, 10:01:39 AM »
Wow, you are sure forgiving of this season. I thought this past episode was pretty weak. I'm really getting tired of how the current Doctor is written. He's far too mean, and apparently clueless about humans, despite interacting with them for many many years. What's the deal with calling Pink a P.E. teacher over and over again? Why is this not explained? And why is he so anti-soldier?
I don't buy into the "He only wants the best for Clara" explanation. He might as well be walking around with a shotgun to scare away the creeps from his little girl.
I don't blame Capaldi, or even Jenna. They're doing the best they can with the shitty scripts they're being given.
I'd rather they expounded on what was going in in the intro to the episode, and gone from there. Now THAT could have been interesting.
Oh, I could keep going forever, but I'll just stop. I'm just so bummed at the direction the show has headed. A couple decent eps, and the rest mediocre, and less than.
This is the first season of Doctor Who my wife has ever watched. I suppose that might be to her advantage, as she has no basis for comparison.

Something tells me you haven't watched much of the Classic Series; specifically, the Sixth Doctor era. I haven't watched the latest season yet, but from how you describe it, it sounds a LOT like how the Sixth Doctor's original era was; a mean, jerkass Doctor, and abominable scripts. It was so bad that the show got put on hiatus for over a year.

But so far, most everyone I've heard from rather likes this new season. Differnt strokes for different folks, I suppose.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #146 on: October 02, 2014, 04:25:13 PM »
Oh wow, yeah
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​In 1984, Peter Davison left Doctor Who as his version of the Doctor, the gentle, much-loved fifth, regenerated into the sixth. Producer John Nathan-Turner and others on the production staff felt it was time to take the series in another direction and perhaps return to the darkness and ambiguity of the show's early years. The actor chosen to herald this shift in tone was Colin Baker, who had appeared in a smallish part on the show before and had made a good impression on Nathan-Turner and others at a party. The Sixth Doctor was deliberately designed to be a change of pace: brash, verbose, aggressive and manic, his on-screen behavior to become the stuff of infamy among fans. At the time, Baker was enthusiastic and speculated that he might go on to be the longest-running Doctor ever: the following debacle would make that statement seem like some sort of a sick joke, as Colin became not only the shortest-lived Doctor on TV (aside from Paul McGann's Eighth) but the most controversial as well.

That costume of his automatically takes 10 points off.
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« Reply #147 on: October 02, 2014, 10:34:34 PM »
That costume of his automatically takes 10 points off.

If it's any consolation, he switched out the horror show jacket for a much less eye-bleeding one in the Big Finish Audios. (Which also had a web-animation special, which premiered the coat.) It still had the same basic form, but it was all one shade of  blue as opposed to being the Technicolor Dreamcoat From Hell.

And as a bonus, the Doctor got an awesome (and middle-aged,) new companion, Evelyn Smyth, of whom mellowed out Six to the point of actually being likeable; the writing for Six's audios shot up around there as well. Basically, they realized what made Six stink on TV, and redeemed themselves wholesale for the audios.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #148 on: October 02, 2014, 10:56:31 PM »
Wow, you are sure forgiving of this season. I thought this past episode was pretty weak. I'm really getting tired of how the current Doctor is written. He's far too mean, and apparently clueless about humans, despite interacting with them for many many years. What's the deal with calling Pink a P.E. teacher over and over again? Why is this not explained? And why is he so anti-soldier?
I don't buy into the "He only wants the best for Clara" explanation. He might as well be walking around with a shotgun to scare away the creeps from his little girl.
I don't blame Capaldi, or even Jenna. They're doing the best they can with the shitty scripts they're being given.
I'd rather they expounded on what was going in in the intro to the episode, and gone from there. Now THAT could have been interesting.
Oh, I could keep going forever, but I'll just stop. I'm just so bummed at the direction the show has headed. A couple decent eps, and the rest mediocre, and less than.
This is the first season of Doctor Who my wife has ever watched. I suppose that might be to her advantage, as she has no basis for comparison.

Something tells me you haven't watched much of the Classic Series; specifically, the Sixth Doctor era. I haven't watched the latest season yet, but from how you describe it, it sounds a LOT like how the Sixth Doctor's original era was; a mean, jerkass Doctor, and abominable scripts. It was so bad that the show got put on hiatus for over a year.

But so far, most everyone I've heard from rather likes this new season. Differnt strokes for different folks, I suppose.

I've never seen any old who. I can't see how having a jerk doctor once before somehow makes this jerk doctor ok.
I don't dislike him, or the show, entirely. It's had it's good moments, certainly. But then they always seem to be followed up with something bad. Bad writing, bad characterization, bad stories overall.
I don't really know anyone around me that watches the show to ask if they are liking it or not. A page I frequent seems to be full of discontented fans, though. Read her latest review, and the comments below it: http://www.flickfilosopher.com/doctor-who

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« Reply #149 on: October 02, 2014, 11:10:18 PM »
Wow, you are sure forgiving of this season. I thought this past episode was pretty weak. I'm really getting tired of how the current Doctor is written. He's far too mean, and apparently clueless about humans, despite interacting with them for many many years. What's the deal with calling Pink a P.E. teacher over and over again? Why is this not explained? And why is he so anti-soldier?
I don't buy into the "He only wants the best for Clara" explanation. He might as well be walking around with a shotgun to scare away the creeps from his little girl.
I don't blame Capaldi, or even Jenna. They're doing the best they can with the shitty scripts they're being given.
I'd rather they expounded on what was going in in the intro to the episode, and gone from there. Now THAT could have been interesting.
Oh, I could keep going forever, but I'll just stop. I'm just so bummed at the direction the show has headed. A couple decent eps, and the rest mediocre, and less than.
This is the first season of Doctor Who my wife has ever watched. I suppose that might be to her advantage, as she has no basis for comparison.

Something tells me you haven't watched much of the Classic Series; specifically, the Sixth Doctor era. I haven't watched the latest season yet, but from how you describe it, it sounds a LOT like how the Sixth Doctor's original era was; a mean, jerkass Doctor, and abominable scripts. It was so bad that the show got put on hiatus for over a year.

But so far, most everyone I've heard from rather likes this new season. Differnt strokes for different folks, I suppose.

I've never seen any old who. I can't see how having a jerk doctor once before somehow makes this jerk doctor ok.

I didn't say that. All I was saying is that this has been done before. I didn't say it should be done again. (Which it shouldn't be, honestly.)