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Re: RPGFan's 20 Top 20 DS Games
« Reply #75 on: November 24, 2013, 04:12:04 PM »
I'm sorry, but I must disagree most wholeheartedly.  Opoona is terrible.

Dawn of the New World is apparently even worse.  In fact, it received the lowest score we gave any Wii game.  (Opoona got only the #5 worst score.)
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Re: RPGFan's 20 Top 20 DS Games
« Reply #76 on: November 24, 2013, 04:25:48 PM »
Yeah I think it's important to consider titles one personally loves amongst ones that are much more unanimously praised.  It's hard to please everyone.
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« Reply #77 on: November 24, 2013, 04:31:57 PM »
 Radiant Historia, dragon quest 5, rune factory 3 and etrian odyssey 3 are the ds rpgs that stick out most to me. I'm kind of sad not to see RF3 on the list at all, especially with dark dawn on there. But, y'know, I get that nobody actually PLAYED RF3.

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« Reply #78 on: November 24, 2013, 10:38:36 PM »
I like Opoona but I think we're all in agreement that I'm an idiot, not a gamer, and probably just a Serbian botnet.
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« Reply #79 on: November 25, 2013, 12:42:38 AM »
I'm sorry, but I must disagree most wholeheartedly.  Opoona is terrible.

Dawn of the New World is apparently even worse.  In fact, it received the lowest score we gave any Wii game.  (Opoona got only the #5 worst score.)

And yet people are waiting for the Symphonia HD Chronicles for some reason (maybe if they updated DotNW to not suck, then it might be worth it (ToS1 is a good game for its time but I'm pretty sure the Tales of series is incredibly incremental in its advancements and overly reliant on archetypes, and I'm fairly certain there's been at least one worth successor to come along since then).

Also, I thought we already did a Top 20 Wii RPGs feature earlier this year?
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« Reply #80 on: November 25, 2013, 12:48:21 AM »
I'm not sure.  We don't have one in the page that lists all of our past special features.
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« Reply #81 on: November 25, 2013, 12:55:05 AM »
I'm not sure.  We don't have one in the page that lists all of our past special features.

I was just there myself, and I could swear we had an argument about the Wii and other console RPGs earlier this year (or maybe it was last year?).
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« Reply #82 on: November 25, 2013, 01:34:04 AM »
Maybe you're remembering the suggestion thread that started this all?  It was on the public forums...
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Re: RPGFan's 20 Top 20 DS Games
« Reply #83 on: November 25, 2013, 01:41:49 AM »
I like Opoona but I think we're all in agreement that I'm an idiot, not a gamer, and probably just a Serbian botnet.

I liked the music. :D

I'm sorry, but I must disagree most wholeheartedly.  Opoona is terrible.

Dawn of the New World is apparently even worse.  In fact, it received the lowest score we gave any Wii game.  (Opoona got only the #5 worst score.)

And yet people are waiting for the Symphonia HD Chronicles for some reason (maybe if they updated DotNW to not suck, then it might be worth it (ToS1 is a good game for its time but I'm pretty sure the Tales of series is incredibly incremental in its advancements and overly reliant on archetypes, and I'm fairly certain there's been at least one worth successor to come along since then).

Also, I thought we already did a Top 20 Wii RPGs feature earlier this year?

Nostalgia. 

The characters were really something too.  But yeah, it's aged liked fine-ass, but it's still good for simple fun even if the newer titles outdo it a million-fold.

ToS2 was the definition of tawdry.  It brought all your favorite characters back in a half-ass sequel with irritating heroes and level caps on the old cast.
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« Reply #84 on: November 25, 2013, 07:36:43 PM »
Opoona does indeed have a great soundtrack.

It's good to see some great picks in the DS list (like Radiant Historia, Ghost Trick, and 999).  The lack of Infinite Space is astounding though.

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« Reply #85 on: November 25, 2013, 07:40:25 PM »
To be honest, I couldn't stand Infinite Space.  It was too ponderous for its own good, plot direction was too vague, and the music was forgettable.  I can see what it was aiming for, but I didn't enjoy it at all.  It's kinda like how I feel about 2001: A Space Odyssey.  I see it for its cinematic values, but holy mother of boring I couldn't sit through that film.  
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« Reply #86 on: November 25, 2013, 07:50:59 PM »
I agree completely, Neal.



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« Reply #87 on: November 25, 2013, 07:51:45 PM »
Symphonia is seriously the only Tales game I liked. I thought the load times made Abyss unplayable and then I couldn't stand that game for a bunch of other reasons besides that anyway -- way too many cutscenes, easy to lock yourself out of things, a looooot of railroading. Also I think Abyss is when they really got into glorping on a bunch of useless gameplay systems.

Also could they seriously either make cooking useful or just remove it? I mean for the entire series?

wrt Infinite Space, a lot of open-ended space based games are super-grindy because Elite was really grindy and they can't get away from that for some reason. I never PLAYED IS, but that sounds like it's the case here -- more Elite-based than like, Star Control 2 based?
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« Reply #88 on: November 25, 2013, 07:58:20 PM »
I am also not a fan of 2001.  Dr. Strangelove is the only Kubrick movie I've ever liked, and I don't think it's a coincidence that it's the movie he made before he got famous enough to override the studio on big stuff.  They forced him to keep the movie shorter.
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Re: RPGFan's 20 Top 20 DS Games
« Reply #89 on: November 25, 2013, 08:00:02 PM »
I've enjoyed every Kubrick film I saw BUT 2001. Though Full Metal Jacket was kind of lacking.