Author Topic: Unsung Story: A Failed Kickstarter by People Who Aren't Yasumi Matsuno.

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Re: Unsung Story: A Kickstarter by Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #180 on: February 10, 2016, 06:54:42 AM »
Kickstart investors get nothing back, aside from the finished product

This might be semantics, but this is because Kickstarter "investors" are not investors at all.  They're donators.
See that's where I get annoyed, as you're right, it's all donations. But that's an issue here, this isn't going to a non-profit organization or something like that, this is to help a company make a product they fully intend to make money off of. If it were to release the game for free or for good cause or something, I could be more forgiving, but they were denied at the real investors who would have received their investment back in full upon completion or failure. For a kickstarter, I get that if it doesn't go well the donators will be stiffed, but why should they not benefit from the success? It baffles me that this works as a practice now, it all sounds like a massive scheme.
If you think that is bad, you should check out this video about Fig, the Kickstarter alternative that allows for investments. Short version, horrible deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFX0f_YUn1I

With Kickstarter you at least know what you are getting.

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Re: Unsung Story: A Kickstarter by Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #181 on: February 28, 2016, 02:15:15 PM »
A wishy-washy update from Playdek yesterday. They resolved some issues with their first creditor, now they're working on their second creditor. If successful, they could be a better financial standing to refund backers who want their financial support back.

Update:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/482445197/unsung-story-tale-of-the-guardians/posts/1503862

Me as backer and whelp... sad panda:

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Re: Unsung Story: A Kickstarter by Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #182 on: February 29, 2016, 06:31:03 AM »
A wishy-washy update from Playdek yesterday. They resolved some issues with their first creditor, now they're working on their second creditor. If successful, they could be a better financial standing to refund backers who want their financial support back.

Update:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/482445197/unsung-story-tale-of-the-guardians/posts/1503862

Me as backer and whelp... sad panda:

I feel that they are underestimating the degree to which people are going to want refunds at this stage. Also I noticed that they have already spent close to 3x the funding amount on the project and still are not done.

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Re: Unsung Story: A Kickstarter by Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #183 on: February 29, 2016, 12:07:06 PM »
I was so close to backing this.  The only thing that held me back was that I knew I could never sell my wife on the idea of spending money on something that didn't technically exist, much less a VIDEO GAME that didn't technically exist.

Thank goodness for my wife's sensibility.  And screw Playdek for teasing me with Matsuno.
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Re: Unsung Story: A Kickstarter by Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #184 on: February 29, 2016, 01:33:20 PM »
Just how involved was Matsuno with this project, anyway?

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Re: Unsung Story: A Kickstarter by Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #185 on: February 29, 2016, 03:34:44 PM »
Not very. It was unclear for many months but once they hit their goal it became revealed that it was in an advisory capacity via a translator remotely at home in Japan.


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Re: Unsung Story: A Failed Kickstarter by People Who Aren't Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #186 on: March 01, 2016, 05:42:15 AM »
Not very. It was unclear for many months but once they hit their goal it became revealed that it was in an advisory capacity via a translator remotely at home in Japan.

Yeah, this has been nothing but a complete wash and a hard lesson on the dangers of Kickstarters.

Thank god I didn't put any actual money down on this horse (meat and glue).

(Changing the title because screw it. Another one bites the dust.)
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Re: Unsung Story: A Kickstarter by Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #187 on: March 01, 2016, 05:45:30 AM »
Well, atleast the title of the game is perfect. This story will not be sung. Or told. Or anything.

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Re: Unsung Story: A Failed Kickstarter by People Who Aren't Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #188 on: March 01, 2016, 10:40:48 AM »
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Love it.


Well, atleast the title of the game is perfect. This story will not be sung. Or told. Or anything.
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Re: Unsung Story: A Failed Kickstarter by People Who Aren't Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #189 on: March 02, 2016, 11:57:44 AM »
Thank god I didn't put any actual money down on this horse (meat and glue). (Changing the title because screw it. Another one bites the dust.)

Thanks for the title change, Aeolus. I needed a good laugh out loud for my $50 that's heading down the drain (unless by a miracle, I get it back).

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Re: Unsung Story: A Failed Kickstarter by People Who Aren't Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #190 on: March 02, 2016, 12:17:54 PM »
Thank god I didn't put any actual money down on this horse (meat and glue). (Changing the title because screw it. Another one bites the dust.)

Thanks for the title change, Aeolus. I needed a good laugh out loud for my $50 that's heading down the drain (unless by a miracle, I get it back).

What helps me when I've found I've wasted money on a bad game or a bad meal or whatever is I think of something else I feel like I enjoyed enough to have been willing to pay extra for and imagine the money went toward that.

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Re: Unsung Story: A Failed Kickstarter by People Who Aren't Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #191 on: March 02, 2016, 03:31:19 PM »
What helps me when I've found I've wasted money on a bad game or a bad meal or whatever is I think of something else I feel like I enjoyed enough to have been willing to pay extra for and imagine the money went toward that.

Gratitude. Yes, that's an excellent attitude and reminder. I'm currently grateful for XBCX. I waited years to play but have loved every minute and inch of the open-world exploration. Also, I'm thankful for Fire Emblem Fates. I'm getting my tactical rpg fix there now. :)

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Re: Unsung Story: A Failed Kickstarter by People Who Aren't Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #192 on: March 02, 2016, 03:42:11 PM »
What helps me when I've found I've wasted money on a bad game or a bad meal or whatever is I think of something else I feel like I enjoyed enough to have been willing to pay extra for and imagine the money went toward that.

Gratitude. Yes, that's an excellent attitude and reminder. I'm currently grateful for XBCX. I waited years to play but have loved every minute and inch of the open-world exploration. Also, I'm thankful for Fire Emblem Fates. I'm getting my tactical rpg fix there now. :)

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Re: Unsung Story: A Failed Kickstarter by People Who Aren't Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #193 on: March 03, 2016, 09:35:43 AM »
What helps me when I've found I've wasted money on a bad game or a bad meal or whatever is I think of something else I feel like I enjoyed enough to have been willing to pay extra for and imagine the money went toward that.

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Re: Unsung Story: A Failed Kickstarter by People Who Aren't Yasumi Matsuno.
« Reply #194 on: March 03, 2016, 02:59:40 PM »
Bleh, honestly though not everything works out perfectly guess what that's the way the world works sometimes, it just happened to be with a particular video game this time.

No need to dwell on it, still good with Crimson Shroud for that fix honestly...

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