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« on: February 19, 2014, 09:44:22 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWJmjq9tQ5o

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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2014, 09:52:26 AM »

I remember watching my best friend's brother beat this entire game over the course of like four weeks. Nostalgia.
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2014, 10:56:12 AM »

Seeing as it spawned two sequels and several "spiritual successors" I don't think it was underrated at all. The only surprise is that it came out under the Jo Wood banner. I haven't played it in years but I remember the controls being very clunky.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2014, 03:40:23 PM »

Controls are very clunky. I'd call it underrated though. It's one of those games that never caught on with the greater rpg fanbase.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2014, 09:44:38 PM »

The controls are clunky but you get used to them I guess? I thought Gothic 2 was better. It's less the controls and more that the enemies are just brutal, too, so it's less learning curve, more HAHAHA !@#% YOU.

You know, G1 and G2 are really Dark Soulsy in how their combat works, now that I think about it.

G2's pretty fantastic at least though.
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2014, 09:10:49 AM »

Gothic II: Gold is my favorite PC RPG.

I agree with the dark souls kind of feel... I remember being roflstomped by a big ostrich within a few seconds of starting the first one, but once you learn the attack patterns most non human/orc enemies are easy.

I love that you can be creative and use scrolls/arrows/climbing to get past or defeat things way beyond your level and get good loot faster in some cases, and the number of chances the games give you to come back to a tough fight or jackass once you've gained power for a little payback.

Great series.... only counting G1-G2. G3 with the community patch is passable, but the difficulty is screwy so I never became a big fan. Very strange going from G1-2 starting out on molerats/boars and working your way up to Orcs and Orc Commanders, then having G3 reverse all that and suddenly you can wade through an army of orcs without much problem but 2 boars together and you'd better have a good strategy.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2014, 07:40:53 PM »

Gothic 3 was made by different guys, basically.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2014, 07:49:17 AM »

Gothic 3 was made by different guys, basically.

That was Gothic 4 (which is just called Arcania now since the rights to the series reverted to PB), Gothic 3 was still made by Piranha Bytes. I enjoyed G3 when it was fully patched, but it was still nowhere near G2. They bit off more than they could chew by making the game world too big - the quests suffered as a result and the combat wasn't up to much either.

After playing the demo of Arcania I think it's best to pretend that Gothic 4 never existed. Risen is pretty much another Gothic game with some names swapped round anyway, though Risen 2 was let down by having combat as bad as G3.
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2014, 12:18:42 PM »

Like most PC games, I actually thought the first Gothic was overrated. It wasn't a bad game and I did enjoy it, but I'd read so many rave reviews that, just like Deus Ex, Thief, Neverwinter Nights, etc. I was left wondering, "what's so damn special about it?"
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2014, 06:35:38 PM »

Gothic 3 was made by different guys, basically.

That was Gothic 4 (which is just called Arcania now since the rights to the series reverted to PB), Gothic 3 was still made by Piranha Bytes. I enjoyed G3 when it was fully patched, but it was still nowhere near G2. They bit off more than they could chew by making the game world too big - the quests suffered as a result and the combat wasn't up to much either.

After playing the demo of Arcania I think it's best to pretend that Gothic 4 never existed. Risen is pretty much another Gothic game with some names swapped round anyway, though Risen 2 was let down by having combat as bad as G3.

Agreed. Gothic -> Gothic II: Gold -> Risen

Arcania is a definite skip, and Gothic III is a mostly skip. You can really get lost in the atmosphere and world fully patched, and the patch helps combat a bit... but the quest/storyline isn't nearly as tight or well done as the first 2 due to the overly massive world, and very easy to break/seal off access to large portions of the story and world without even meaning to if you don't explore everything before you start questing.
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2014, 02:29:19 AM »

I've been meaning to finish this game for the longest. It's right up there with Thief and Deus Ex in my Late 90's to Early 00's PC games that I need to get around to playing. I played up to understanding the controls though, so that's something.

I have tried playing Risen for a bit but the combat felt so stale. Though I think that's because the majority of what I did in Risen was try and kill these overpowered moth things in a cave that was obviously way over my skill/character level. I do remember a unique "leveling" system, an interesting story (VA sucked more than some JP VA's) and a pretty open world. Well, open enough.
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2014, 09:36:57 PM »

I still remember downloading Gothic 3. It was perhaps the most disappointing game in my life. Encountering a simple boar that stunlocked my character due to the poor animations at the time was awful. The only way to kill it was to stand on a rock and shoot arrows, and of course the animal's AI was so dumb it just stood there and died.

The game ran like shit too.
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