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« Reply #105 on: April 16, 2014, 06:41:49 PM »

By any chance, is it this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_dick
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« Reply #106 on: April 16, 2014, 06:46:47 PM »

Fuuka is boring.

But did you know she can swim really well? >.>
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« Reply #107 on: April 16, 2014, 07:39:30 PM »

It's time to stop using 15 year old games as the benchmark for bad voice acting.

Chaos Wars - NA Release Date, 2008

15 years huh? ;-P

Snark aside, very certain there's more recent examples if the year 2014 is contemporary enough for you. The entire game's just chalk full of bad VA but this timestamp I think captures the spirit of it. 'This' is bad voice acting of similar caliber. Conception II blows this out of the water.

I still hold that you can't judge components of a game based purely on the outliers of either extreme, especially on the side of bad. It's kind of a moot point though, because I don't believe the review called the voice acting bad so much as simply mismatched.
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« Reply #108 on: April 16, 2014, 08:38:30 PM »

I'm reminded once again of that episode of The Simpsons where Marge gets Itchy and Scratchy off the air by making it kinder and gentler, but when the decency groups wanted her on board to prevent Michaelangelo's David from making a tour stop in Springfield, she declined, saying "everyone should see it."  Then there was the whole "you accept David, indecencies and all, yet not Itchy and Scratchy, indecencies and all?"  

While it wasn't the best episode by way of humour, I miss the days of The Simpson's ability to bring to bring in amazing culturally-relavent laughs and surprisingly conscious introspection.  That episode is one of many I can appreciate more as an adult than I did as a kid who were, like Bart and Lisa, enjoying Itchy and Scratchy for the laughs and little else.

Anyways, a reviewer said it better than me about "Itchy & Scratchy & Marge":

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Ah, but Margeís campaign backfires when censorship-happy harpies try to co-opt Margeís mission for their own ends by launching a campaign against Michaelangeloís David. Marge canít get behind such blatant censorship of great art and is wearily forced to concede that [...] free expression we donít like or approve of or find disturbing and even potentially harmful is the price we pay for freedom of speech.

Its part of the reason I can't blame the game by way of content than get frustrated with the jokes it tries in general (much like Conception II right now).

It's time to stop using 15 year old games as the benchmark for bad voice acting.

Chaos Wars - NA Release Date, 2008

15 years huh? ;-P

Snark aside, very certain there's more recent examples if the year 2014 is contemporary enough for you. The entire game's just chalk full of bad VA but this timestamp I think captures the spirit of it. 'This' is bad voice acting of similar caliber. Conception II blows this out of the water.

I still hold that you can't judge components of a game based purely on the outliers of either extreme, especially on the side of bad. It's kind of a moot point though, because I don't believe the review called the voice acting bad so much as simply mismatched.

This isn't really here nor there... but man, I don't get the fondness for old Resident Evil and the bashing both 5 and 6 got for ITS hammy dialogue (i.e.; 110% witty American banter).
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« Reply #109 on: April 17, 2014, 07:22:24 AM »

I have to take back a bit what I said. This game isn't 'grindy'. That implies progress. There needs to be another word for this. X-x

Spent roughly 3 hours playing last night to get through Chapter 2. Star Children have level caps. What their cap is seems to be a combination of your level, heroine's level, and affection rating with some RNG thrown in for good measure. So when I started most of my kids were maxed out at level 14-16. Cleared out the two sub dungeons, gradually swapping kids as one capped out (you trade them in to level up the town for new stuff), then beat the main dungeon.

Since I swapped to Torri...I now have a Heroine reset of Level 6 (from Serina's 14) and guess what all my Star Kids are at? 14-16. ~_~; 3 hours and the only 'progress' is a raised level cap and about 3+ levels to the hero.

H'oy...
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« Reply #110 on: April 17, 2014, 08:25:04 AM »

63% average on Metacritic, and mixed impressions on forums... A bit of a letdown for something so many were hyped about. Good thing Demon Gaze is almost out.
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« Reply #111 on: April 17, 2014, 10:00:05 AM »

I think it's pretty obvious that deathsaber has never actually played an eroge.  I do find it a little amusing how he can defend something like this game while simultaneously looking down on eroge when they actually have a lot more in common than he thinks...

Wrong, I know full well what these games are.  I've seen vids, read reviews here.  Games like Eselia the Eternal that have actual rpg gameplay to go with the visual novel sex shenanigans. 

So why not play these instead?  Because:

1.  I'm a married 35 yr old father of two.  I can play a game like conception 2 on Vita whenever while sitting with my kids, or in bed right next to my non-gamer wife, and not rankle any feathers.  Because other than some occasional innuendo laden text, the game is basically no different than any other JRPG.  I certainly couldn't fire up some sex game nex to my wife, or in front of my six year old. 


2.  I"m a pretty much a console gamer only.   All I play is purchased from Gamestop/Target/PSN store.  I don't do PC gaming, homebrew, steal games on torrents, or purchase those types of games from places like JastUSA (again, yes I do know about this stuff),.  That said, don't call me a newb- I've had almost every console made since Colecovision, and I was a heavy PC gamer in the 90s, pre 3d acceleration, when I kind of stopped because I tired of trying to keep up with it all, and decided to stick with consoles.  But no, I'm not a pc gamer anymore.  My pc is just for work and internet now.

3.  Honestly, I'm just not really into porn/hentai/eroge.  Maybe, if I were younger, but I find the majority of it kind of weird and gross.  If I want sex, you know, I go have some.  So there.

Like I said- I like the cute girls.  I like dating sim elements, or any kind of romance element-honestly if I ever read that any game has a romance element, its on my list.    And some occasional boob humor makes me chuckle, so sue me :)  Plus, I appreciate games that aren't so serious from time to time.  So there you pretty much have it.  Yes, it is possible somebody might be more into somehing like Conception 2, and not necessarily eroge and other "hard" stuff. 
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« Reply #112 on: April 17, 2014, 10:43:55 AM »

Kevadu is also married to a WW2 Japanese battleship
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« Reply #113 on: April 17, 2014, 10:44:30 AM »

 just wanna point out that the version of Aselia JAST brought over was the "all ages" version (I have it)

Tintaglia - not as low as the Witch and the Hundred Knight's metascore :P  Played that right before this prettymuch.  It is pretty disappointing in some respects but I'm still being entertained enough

Beat the chapter 2 boss last night (greed dungeon).  The boss was a freaking joke.  It only got to attack twice before it died.  I'm kinda annoyed about the waifu heroine switching, it seems kinda a pain to use more than one or two because they don't level automatically at all.  They REALLY should too cause if you keep switching around I don't see how they are supposed to keep up with the main char's level at all.  I also don't like that at the dorm room (menu hell) when you switch girls it doesn't let you compare their full status and skills without actually picking each one manually and looking.
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« Reply #114 on: April 17, 2014, 12:05:05 PM »

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yeah, its grindy in that aspect.  Naturally, you will have to switch girls to get certain elemental attributes and such on your main, and that will take some leveling to bring a new girl up to speed. 

On the bright side through, I'd say overall, the game just isn't so hard to require you to be really overleveled. 
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« Reply #115 on: April 17, 2014, 01:19:25 PM »

I'm not sure how much the elements matter though.  I assume you could go through the game only using one girl if you wanted.

I stopped right after that boss but I assume I'll have Torri and Feene soon.  Mostly been using chloe and serina.  Chloe cause uh....dat costume.  Serina cause her first big special hits the whole field. Do any of the other girls learn an all enemy hitter quickly like Serina?
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« Reply #116 on: April 17, 2014, 01:44:43 PM »

Just got one from Torri that's a wind all-enemy hitter.

Apparently in the 4th floor of the first dungeon's VR sim there's a chance of an enemy spawning that looks basically like a bunny and a slime mated. Barely hits for anything and if you kill it you get 1500 XP...holy crap.
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« Reply #117 on: April 17, 2014, 09:29:40 PM »

I think it's pretty obvious that deathsaber has never actually played an eroge.  I do find it a little amusing how he can defend something like this game while simultaneously looking down on eroge when they actually have a lot more in common than he thinks...

Wrong, I know full well what these games are. I've seen vids, read reviews here. Games like Eselia the Eternal that have actual rpg gameplay to go with the visual novel sex shenanigans.

So why not play these instead? Because:

1. I'm a married 35 yr old father of two. I can play a game like conception 2 on Vita whenever while sitting with my kids, or in bed right next to my non-gamer wife, and not rankle any feathers. Because other than some occasional innuendo laden text, the game is basically no different than any other JRPG. I certainly couldn't fire up some sex game nex to my wife, or in front of my six year old. 


2. I"m a pretty much a console gamer only. All I play is purchased from Gamestop/Target/PSN store. I don't do PC gaming, homebrew, steal games on torrents, or purchase those types of games from places like JastUSA (again, yes I do know about this stuff),. That said, don't call me a newb- I've had almost every console made since Colecovision, and I was a heavy PC gamer in the 90s, pre 3d acceleration, when I kind of stopped because I tired of trying to keep up with it all, and decided to stick with consoles. But no, I'm not a pc gamer anymore. My pc is just for work and internet now.

3. Honestly, I'm just not really into porn/hentai/eroge. Maybe, if I were younger, but I find the majority of it kind of weird and gross. If I want sex, you know, I go have some. So there.

Aselia is one of the eroge that includes an RPG battle system, and you make it seem as if these games are "porn" (despite many of them having minimal amounts of sex) like most people would or generally do, but any basically any movie with a sex scene is still a regular movie.
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« Reply #118 on: April 17, 2014, 11:44:05 PM »

It's not really an eroge anymore if it doesn't have any sex scenes though so I feel it's weird to keep going back to Aselia (though yeah the original Japanese version was eroge)
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« Reply #119 on: April 18, 2014, 07:00:42 AM »

I am currently using Ellie as my main since she is the most interesting character for me at the moment. Just got Torri though so maybe her events will win me over.

I'm not sure how much the elements matter though.  I assume you could go through the game only using one girl if you wanted.

I stopped right after that boss but I assume I'll have Torri and Feene soon.  Mostly been using chloe and serina.  Chloe cause uh....dat costume.  Serina cause her first big special hits the whole field. Do any of the other girls learn an all enemy hitter quickly like Serina?
Element determines what elemental spells Star Children learn....so there is that. I dunno beyond that.

You get Torri soon but have to wait another chapter for Feene.

Just got one from Torri that's a wind all-enemy hitter.

Apparently in the 4th floor of the first dungeon's VR sim there's a chance of an enemy spawning that looks basically like a bunny and a slime mated. Barely hits for anything and if you kill it you get 1500 XP...holy crap.
Yeah you can get a few of those in the bottom floor of the 2nd dungeon also. The better place to grind them however is the bottom floor of the third sub dungeon (so you have to be in chapter 3) because I believe they are guaranteed to spawn there and last time I was there I think I encountered a total of 4 encounters with 3 each (so 12). I am so grinding them to get all of heroines up to the same level (29 because that is my current overleveled position).
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