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Re: Kantai Collection
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2014, 08:20:46 PM »
E1 done took 10 attempts fully sparkled and some serious luck. Nerves are shot, gonna take a break.  Will start on E2 later tonight maybe....

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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2014, 10:02:24 PM »
10 attempts is really good by most accounts.  I see people on the wiki saying things like they've done 40 runs and haven't gotten a single boss kill.

Of course, I did it in 8 ;)

On E-2 you can avoid night node BS and stuff like that with the right setup, and honestly I thought it felt easier than E-1.  But you'll definitely need sanshikis to take out the boss.

I really should start on MI, but today I've just been grinding CVLs to use on E-6 because it's freaking me out.  And Ooyodo while I'm at it.  I felt that I was really prepared for this event.  I fully expected AL to need CVLs and cruisers (just based on history) so I made sure I had two good CVLs.  And of course I new MI would demand CVs so I was very ready there.  But CVLs played no role at midway so I figured the two for AL would be enough.  This E-6 thing came out of nowhere...

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Re: Kantai Collection
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2014, 10:29:55 PM »
it could have been a lot more, I was 1 or 2 hits from retreating all but 2 of those runs. I am thinking a lot of those people are not fully sparkling their ships. Then again a lot of luck involved as well, but the sparkling definitely helps.Though even sparkled I got hit from green to orange more then a few times.....those new dd are evil. Did not fear the bb, but those damn dd. I had no problem with the 1st or 2nd node it was the 3rd that wanted to send me back to base.




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Re: Kantai Collection
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2014, 04:39:11 AM »
Apparently DMM is running a promotion right now where if you spend 3000 yen or more on points (about $30) you get 50% more points.  In other words, if you spend 3000 yen you get 4500 yen worth of points.  It's not a bad deal, really.  I had been itching to upgrade my dock space anyway with all the new ships becoming available during this event so I decided to go for it.

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Re: Kantai Collection
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2014, 12:40:07 PM »
yeah I saw that on the unofficial forums, contemplating how much I want to spend on that offer. Hey Kevadu, how does LoS  2-5 equipment formula work? trying to figure what I need gear wise  to meet e-2 dd route los check requirements. I have multiple Saiun, 3 type 33 radars, and a type 13 radar

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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2014, 12:52:24 PM »
I think it's 2x plane LoS + non-plane equipment LoS + sqrt(base LoS).  Basically, you want to emphasize planes.  Seaplanes on cruisers and the like and Saiun for carriers.  Probably only one seaplane per cruisr because you still want them to double attack and you need sanshikis for the boss.  DDs should get the type 33 radars since they can't equip planes.

Also, a lot of high-level attack planes like the Egusa Suisei and Tomonaga Tenzen get significant LoS bonuses too if you have them.  And even Ryuusei kai gets a little.

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Re: Kantai Collection
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2014, 01:28:26 PM »
I think it's 2x plane LoS + non-plane equipment LoS + sqrt(base LoS).  Basically, you want to emphasize planes.  Seaplanes on cruisers and the like and Saiun for carriers.  Probably only one seaplane per cruisr because you still want them to double attack and you need sanshikis for the boss.  DDs should get the type 33 radars since they can't equip planes.

Also, a lot of high-level attack planes like the Egusa Suisei and Tomonaga Tenzen get significant LoS bonuses too if you have them.  And even Ryuusei kai gets a little.
I don't got any of the those high level planes, just going to have to hope I have enough. I do have 4 Ryuuisei Kai. Thanks for the help.

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Re: Kantai Collection
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2014, 05:45:42 PM »
Had enough los to do the 2DD route 2kills so far

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Re: Kantai Collection
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2014, 06:13:22 PM »
2dd route is a godsend too bad it screws over people  that don't have absurd los

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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2014, 07:53:29 PM »
Finally taking a break from CVL grinding (heh) to do MI.  Man E-3 is easy.  Well, it's all about setup, really.  I'm using 8 Reppus and a Reppu kai which gives me air superiority on every node, and since the pre-boss nodes are entirely air battles they only scratch me at worst.  The boss itself isn't very hard to sink either.  But I guess if you don't have that many Reppus it might be tougher.

I have found myself suddenly taking a wrong turn before the boss occasionally, which is odd since it seems like another LoS requirement.  Even with the exact same ships and the exact same equipment I will sometimes make it to the boss and sometimes not.  My only guess is that my recon planes are getting shot down (I did put them in the smallest slots) which can affect LoS.  But I have a ton of LoS equipment so I didn't think I would be that borderline...

And even if the map isn't very hard, it is expensive to deploy two fleets like that.  Plus it eats so much bauxite with the number of planes in the sky.

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Re: Kantai Collection
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2014, 08:56:10 PM »
Finally taking a break from CVL grinding (heh) to do MI.  Man E-3 is easy.  Well, it's all about setup, really.  I'm using 8 Reppus and a Reppu kai which gives me air superiority on every node, and since the pre-boss nodes are entirely air battles they only scratch me at worst.  The boss itself isn't very hard to sink either.  But I guess if you don't have that many Reppus it might be tougher.

I have found myself suddenly taking a wrong turn before the boss occasionally, which is odd since it seems like another LoS requirement.  Even with the exact same ships and the exact same equipment I will sometimes make it to the boss and sometimes not.  My only guess is that my recon planes are getting shot down (I did put them in the smallest slots) which can affect LoS.  But I have a ton of LoS equipment so I didn't think I would be that borderline...

And even if the map isn't very hard, it is expensive to deploy two fleets like that.  Plus it eats so much bauxite with the number of planes in the sky.
nice!
man...either the devs didn't properly tune E1  and E2 or they went full on sadist  meter then broke the knob on E6. I wonder What do the non Insane Japanese think of the event E1 and E2
I am up to 4kills  on loli

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Re: Kantai Collection
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2014, 12:47:11 AM »
E-3 cleared.  Even with a relatively high success rate it still ate around 5k bauxite.


Seems to be rage out on the wiki comments.  So many people struggling with the first two maps...
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Re: Kantai Collection
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2014, 03:25:27 AM »
First two runs on E-4: A ship gets hit to red by the subs on node C, have to head back.  Not off to a good start there.

But then I kept at it and scored two boss kills in a row on the following two runs without really changing anything.  Just got unlucky I guess?  Don't see many people bitching about the subs on E-4, and they're usually quick to bitch about such things.

If you can actually make it to her I felt the E-4 boss was actually easier than E-3's.  Sure she's got a ton of HP but those installation types are really vulnerable to sanshikis.  Boosts your damage in a big way.  Perhaps even more importantly, her escort ships feel a lot weaker than the other bosses we've had to fight so far.  My second fleet mopped them up with their torpedoes on both occasions which means the first fleet directed 100% of their shelling at the boss.  And if for some reason that still couldn't kill her there's still the night round.

Oh, and she dropped Hayashimo the second time.  One rare destroyer drop out of the way.

Still, 10 boss kills required for E-4.  That's a lot more than I've seen in any previous event.  They're really dragging this one out...

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I've done 6 runs on E-4 now.  One more boss kill and one more crit'ed by the subs so I'm still sitting at a 50% chance of making it through the sub node.  I guess things could be a lot worse that 50% but it's still frustrating.  Especially since it's pretty much clear sailing so long as I made it through that node.
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Re: Kantai Collection
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2014, 08:25:53 AM »
First two runs on E-4: A ship gets hit to red by the subs on node C, have to head back.  Not off to a good start there.

But then I kept at it and scored two boss kills in a row on the following two runs without really changing anything.  Just got unlucky I guess?  Don't see many people bitching about the subs on E-4, and they're usually quick to bitch about such things.

If you can actually make it to her I felt the E-4 boss was actually easier than E-3's.  Sure she's got a ton of HP but those installation types are really vulnerable to sanshikis.  Boosts your damage in a big way.  Perhaps even more importantly, her escort ships feel a lot weaker than the other bosses we've had to fight so far.  My second fleet mopped them up with their torpedoes on both occasions which means the first fleet directed 100% of their shelling at the boss.  And if for some reason that still couldn't kill her there's still the night round.

Oh, and she dropped Hayashimo the second time.  One rare destroyer drop out of the way.

Still, 10 boss kills required for E-4.  That's a lot more than I've seen in any previous event.  They're really dragging this one out...

Edit:
I've done 6 runs on E-4 now.  One more boss kill and one more crit'ed by the subs so I'm still sitting at a 50% chance of making it through the sub node.  I guess things could be a lot worse that 50% but it's still frustrating.  Especially since it's pretty much clear sailing so long as I made it through that node.

Nice to see the Japanese think E1 @ E2 is  BS. 1 or 2 kills from clear. Screen decided to freeze when loli hulk smashed Fubuki so I dont know if damage to her counted.

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Re: Kantai Collection
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2014, 09:51:44 AM »
Kevadu be wary of MI maps if one of your ships is very close to red. apparently there is a sink  bug  that sometimes happens when orange ships are really red and sunk. Just giving you a heads up in case you didn't know. https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF