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« on: December 10, 2006, 05:46:25 PM »

http://wii.ign.com/articles/750/750001p1.html

For copyright infringement.

In my opinion, the terms mentioned for the "pointer like device" are way too vague to be real copyright infringement. But maybe I don't understand law well enough.
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2006, 05:57:51 PM »

You don't copyright technology. You patent it.

Anyways, this seems like a load of bullshit to me. It's not for motion sensing as far as I can tell or pointer functionality or anything like that, it's for /the B trigger/. Maybe they can win this and the patent laws are that fucked up, but I fail to see how the Wii remote having a B button magically ruined their sales, in a  completely different field, unless everyone was using third party software to use it for their computers in presentations. Even then, I figure a proper device for that would work better, espicially since the pointer functionality has yet to be properly utilized in that third party software.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2006, 06:13:24 PM »

Hi Interlink.

I'm the Z Trigger.

You may remember me from such controllers as the N64.

Eat a dick.

Merry Christmas!
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2006, 11:11:59 PM »

All nintendo has to do is pull out a twenty year old light gun to win the case.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2006, 05:02:50 AM »

Nintendo had their Wii controller presented over a year ago.

Suddenly as soon as the Wii is a success, somebody tries to cash in on it. Not surprised.

Nintendo wont lose anyway.

"hur hur nintendo is making us lose money"

Yeah I can see how a video game system is really making you lose money with your PC-based remote thing that doesn't even exist.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2006, 10:50:39 AM »

Quote from: "Eusis"
You don't copyright technology. You patent it.


Apparently the author thinks the terms are interchangeable:

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California-based Interlink electronics has filed a complaint against Nintendo for what it has deemed to be a case of copyright infringement over the pointing functionalities of the Wiimote.

Gaming blog Kotaku has obtained a court filing, issued by the US District Court of Delaware, which accuses Nintendo of infringing on a patent filed previously by Interlink Electronics.

(emphasis mine)

Unfortunately, Tony, Nintendo will have to take this seriously.  Ever since a central court was established to handle patent cases, there's been a significant bias in favor of the patent holder.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2006, 02:50:46 PM »

SONY STOLE THEIRS THOUGH
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2006, 03:45:58 PM »

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The claim refers to a patent filed in February, 2005 which refers to a device titled "Trigger Operated Electronic Device." The patent describes the advice as a "trigger operated device in the nature of a pointing device for use with an electronic system such as a computer." The patent continues to describe a device which, on the surface, sounds an awful like the Wii's controller.


I have a feeling Nintendo's going to win this one.

EDIT: I'll try to dig up the full text of the patent and see what it says when I get back.
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2006, 04:25:01 PM »

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The patent describes the advice as a "trigger operated device in the nature of a pointing device for use with an electronic system such as a computer."


Okay, so then why don't they go and sue the makers of every light-gun controller ever created?
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2006, 05:31:18 PM »

So I took a look at the patent, and I think they may have a valid claim.

The patent was originally filed in September 1997; back in the days  of the N64, PSX, and Saturn. The text of the patent indicates that what they're patenting is the use of analog buttons in the remote. Considering where analog technology was in '97, they probably have a valid case.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2006, 06:47:02 PM »

I, uhh, don't think the buttons on the Wii Remote /are/ analog though. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2006, 10:36:54 PM »

What year did Lethal Enforcers come out?

Or Virtua Cop, Time Crisis, or any of the other light-gun arcade games...

(of course, some of those may not have analog buttons, but I'm pretty sure some had trigger sensitivity and that they came out before 97...)
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2006, 04:47:52 PM »

This is all shit, people need to stop suing each other.
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2006, 11:02:06 PM »

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This is all shit, people need to stop suing each other.


But if they stopped suing people for money....they'd go out of business!!!

Patent squating assholes = bad

Now if they actually had a product that was actively selling that was in direct infrigement by Nintendo....then they might have a leg to stand on.
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2006, 11:23:46 PM »

What gets me is that they're basically suing over a BUTTON. Not a fancy button, just one that happens to be put underneath, and this is patent infringing. Shouldn't this be for overall unique inventions or at least a very novel use of something? Perhaps a button within a button or one that has two different functions (pressure sensitivity basically) when pressed? If this goes allt he way to court AND wins, I'll be amazed, but it might not be that surprising.
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