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Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« on: April 04, 2016, 09:26:15 PM »
Location: Darkroot Garden trying to fight the wolf boss, after beating the boss of the Painted World of whatever the fuck you call it.

My stats:

Level: 91
Vitality: 15
Attunement: 15
Endurance: 35
Strength: 43
Dexterity: 15
Resistance: 16
Intelligence: 16
Faith: 18

Equipment:

Right hand: Dragon Tooth / Pyromancy Flame
Left hand: Divine Knight Shield +5 / That thing that lets you cast Miracles, forgot its name.
Armor: Havel's Helm, Havel's Armor, Havel's Gauntlets, Havel's Leggings
Accessories: Ring of Steel Protection, Covetous Gold Serpent Ring

Any help would be appreciated, since I don't like giving up on games so I can actually review them on my review wiki with knowledge of a complete playthrough.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2016, 10:23:07 PM by Der Jermeister »

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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2016, 10:10:08 PM »
Good plan! I'll do what I can to assist. I'll try and break down my suggestions into segments so it's easier to read. Just a disclaimer, while I have beaten all the Souls games, I'm not an expert of optimising builds or min-maxing or anything. All I can provide is tips based on my own experience and knowledge.

Character Build - Stats

Let's take a look at the stats one by one and see how/if they're useful to you. I don't know exactly how you're playing, but I'll make a guess based on your equipment: melee tank with a touch of pyromancy.

Useful | Some Use | Not Useful

Vitality
Raises HP
I've seen debates about the usefulness of health, since if you're blocking/dodging well it doesn't make a huge amount of difference. However, I definitely advise you to push it higher (to at least 20-25), depending on your needs. Why? You will die less, particularly if you're also wearing heavy armour like Havel's. Once you've pushed other useful stats as high as you want, make sure to invest plenty more here (maybe to between 30 - 35; see how you go).

Attunement
Additional Spell Slots
How often do you use pyromancy? A lot? Occasionally? Never? If you answered anything other than "a lot," then don't bother going any higher. How many of your equipped spells do you use every single time you go out from a bonfire? If the answer is less than the current number of slots you have, then definitely don't put this any higher. If you want one additional spell, put one extra point in it since 16 will give it to you, but stop there unless you're using Pyromancy constantly.

For example, in DS3, I'm playing a pure sorcerer. Even then, I only have 4 slots and am unlikely to get many (maybe any) more, since there's only about 3-4 I use really regularly. I can always go back to a bonfire and re-attune if there's specific utility I need.

Endurance
More Stamina, More Equip Load
35 is already quite high, and you could push it up to 40 if you wanted (I personally wouldn't), but do not go higher as that's where it caps.

Strength
Increases damage on STR-scaling weapons
Very useful, as you're already aware. 43 is excellent, and it's probably not necessary to go much higher unless you want to. 50 is the final soft cap, so definitely don't go past that.

Dexterity
Faster casting, more damage on DEX weapons.
Unless you find a STR-based weapon you want to use that also has DEX requirements, I wouldn't bother pushing this one any higher for your build.

Resistance
Various defenses.
Don't bother pushing any higher. First soft cap is 15 and the stat won't be that useful anyway.

Intelligence
Sorcery DMG and INT weapon DMG up.
Useless to you.

Faith
Miracle DMG and FTH weapon DMG up.
Useless to you.

Character Build - Equipment


Weapon
I'd advise a change of weapon. The Dragon Tooth is very strong, but does not scale well and is slow to swing. Black Knight's Greatsword could be an excellent option if you happen to have it and still want a huge weapon. Otherwise there's Black Knight Sword which is a little smaller, but also a little faster. If you want to try something completely different, Butcher's Knife is a lot faster and should scale well with your high STR. Remember, speed of a weapon is important, especially when fighting a fast boss like Sif - the more time you have between swings, the more openings your enemy has.

Shield
Nothing wrong with your shield choice at all, though Divine is an odd enchantment as it doesn't give you personally any benefit. Silver Knight Shield would be a useful upgrade if you can grab it. Pretty sure that's the one I used, though there's los of other good ones. 100 physical block is your friend. If you want to upgrade a shield, just go the basic path with titanite shards.

Pyromancy Flame
Upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. That's the only way to make your pyromancy spells stronger. That said, if you don't really use them, don't waste the upgrade materials. Ignore the fact the flame tells you it scales with INT - that will not increase your spell damage. More info here.

Armour
It's a common mistake to assume that more physical defence will help you (well, sometimes it does, but often it doesn't when the cost is movement speed). Havel provides a huge amount of it, but if you're still dying then it might be worth exploring other avenues. How slowly do you move? If you feel like it's too slow, pick a different armour set. Black Iron looks like a solid option, and you should have it/be able to get it where you're up to. Chances are you'll notice you run/move faster and may even be able to dodge which, even with a good shield, is still handy. If you want, try something even lighter.

Oh, and don't forget you can mix and match armour from different sets to get to a weight/defense that works best for you. Nothing wrong with a couple of light armour pieces and a couple of heavy ones.

Rings
Ditch the Covetous Gold ring - it has use if you're farming items, but I wouldn't advise it for general gameplay. Absolutely go get the Cloranthy Ring and equip it ASAP, if you don't have it already. Stamina regen is good. Wolf Ring may also be useful, but stick with Steel Protection if you don't have it.

Boss Strategy

Here's pretty much everything you need to know about Sif and his attacks. There's also some decent strategy ideas there for different builds. I don't remember the fight well enough to provide much else useful on top of that, but I will impart some advice I've found helpful across all the Souls games:

Don't be afraid to change your equipment; different bosses call for different strategies. If a boss casts spells, make sure you're wearing armour with high magic defense, even if physical defense is lowered. Take a look at your rings and see if you can make a change that will help too.

I always hate changing my gear, but it can make a huge difference depending on the boss. Also, watching videos of someone else with your build-style winning the fight can be enlightening too. This one seems decent. Not perfect, but gives you an idea of how to dodge/where to stand.
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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2016, 10:23:31 PM »
Thanks. By the way I forgot to mention I also have equipped that thing that lets you cast Miracles whatever it's called.

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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2016, 10:30:13 PM »
A talisman? I'd advise ditching it - I can't imagine your miracles are too powerful with only 18 faith. Are you only using it for healing? Estus Flasks should be enough, I think. Using healing spells in boss battles rarely ends well anyway. Not sure if you're aware, but you can also upgrade your Estus. If you really want to use pyromancy or miracles, I'd pick one and stick with it.



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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2016, 10:44:33 PM »
A talisman? I'd advise ditching it - I can't imagine your miracles are too powerful with only 18 faith. Are you only using it for healing? Estus Flasks should be enough, I think. Using healing spells in boss battles rarely ends well anyway. Not sure if you're aware, but you can also upgrade your Estus. If you really want to use pyromancy or miracles, I'd pick one and stick with it.

I know about upgrading the Estus Flask, and only used Miracles for healing anyway, so I can live without them.

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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2016, 11:06:17 PM »
A talisman isn't so bad if you want to cast a quick Homeward and you have nothing else you want to swap to that hand for anyway.

As far as rings go, I find that Ring of Favor and Protection is pretty much the GOAT (put it on but never remove it)
Increased health is always good
Increased stamina means you can attack/parry more
Increase load (allows you to go higher than the cap from stats) will help if you are going super heavy

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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2016, 01:45:30 AM »
As far as rings go, I find that Ring of Favor and Protection is pretty much the GOAT (put it on but never remove it)

Definitely good advice!

The tl;dr version of my first post is basically...

  • Put a lot more points into Vitality.
  • Stop raising INT/FTH/RES.
  • Change your weapon to something faster that scales better with STR.
  • Strongly consider changing at least some of your armour to something lighter so you can move slightly faster.
  • Change at least your gold ring.
  • Practice.
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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2016, 08:57:04 AM »
Thanks.

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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2016, 10:42:33 AM »
By the way, would any of you have good farming techniques and locations for someone of my level?

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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2016, 10:43:05 AM »
After taking all the other suggestions into account, if you're hitting loss after loss and not seeing an improvement, stop and play something else. Come back to the game the next day.

Sometimes that's all I've needed to get past fiendish Souls bosses.


edit: farming suggestions....have you gone after the three forest guardians past the door in Darkroot that opens via Artorias' seal? Those guys are pretty good for building souls quickly.

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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2016, 11:26:03 AM »
After taking all the other suggestions into account, if you're hitting loss after loss and not seeing an improvement, stop and play something else. Come back to the game the next day.

Sometimes that's all I've needed to get past fiendish Souls bosses.


edit: farming suggestions....have you gone after the three forest guardians past the door in Darkroot that opens via Artorias' seal? Those guys are pretty good for building souls quickly.
I'm aware of that technique, but leveling now costs me in the vicinity of 50000+ souls.

You know what? Fuck Sif, I'm trying the Catacombs now instead, and am actually having a somewhat easier time with the enemies aside from the fact that it's fucking easy to get lost given the shitty decision by the fucking Japs that developed this overrated piece of shit not to have in-game maps, which even decades-old titles such as The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past fucking had. Lazy design, plain and simple.
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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2016, 01:24:36 PM »
....uhh.

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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2016, 03:11:44 PM »
It just makes me want to vomit when this game's countless apologists gush about how great it supposedly is while downplaying its serious flaws.

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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2016, 05:51:10 PM »
I think you should quit playing if it's making you this angry (either temporarily or long-term). Dark Souls may just not be the game for you. While it's not a game without flaws, there's plenty of awesome stuff in there (as I mentioned on the Game Journal topic) that perhaps just doesn't gel with what you enjoy in games - and that's completely okay.

I, for one, enjoy not being quite sure what might be around the next corner and learning to remember the best ways to navigate an environment without the help of a map. Would I want that for every game? Definitely not, but I think it works well with Dark Souls' themes. I understand if that's not a design decision you enjoy, but it's also worth realising that just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's a bad choice/fault in the game.

As an aside, did you try any of my advice? Obviously the stat suggestions will take time since you need enough souls, but the change of equipment is an easier fix that might give you a leg up.
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Re: Help Der Jermeister beat Dark Souls!
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2016, 08:42:08 PM »
Fuck no I'm not gonna make like a Frenchman and give up on the game. I want to beat it and tell the world how shitty it actually is despite your obvious delusion that it's somehow "rewarding" and a "masterpiece." You cultists are all the same. It fucking sickens me that fantards like you engage in journalistic fellatio and actually reward developers for defecating feces such as Dark Souls while bitching and moaning about games being easy. I fucking know I'm not alone in my opinions. You are the fucking cancer ruining game journalism. I actually wrote a civil critical review on the original Demon's Souls and had it posted on Amazon, and you know what happened? All the rabid fantards bitched and moaned about my opinion and tried to hurt my Amazon reviewer score by somehow idiotically voting that my review was "not helpful," which ultimately led me to pull down my review to salvage my ranking.