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Blue Reflection
« on: August 28, 2016, 09:53:36 PM »
http://gematsu.com/2016/08/blue-reflection-first-details-screenshots

So now its Gust's/Koei-Temco's turn at taking a crack at that Magical Girl JRPG genre that's still criminally underrepresented. Hell, its already better off than Level 5's/Banpresto's/Squeenix's/Compile Factory's attempts by virtue of not being outright skeezy (though I'm not holding my breath on this, especially since it got announced alongside 'Totally-not-Lesbians of Azure 2'), not aimed at the wrong demographic for a serious attempt at this, containing an actual magical girl (well okay, Superheroine Chronicles did have Symphogear and Dream Hunter REM), and/or isn't free-2-play CCG shovelware.

That said, the reason I'm throwing this thread together is that it sounds like Sailor Moon meets Persona and I know that half of RPGAtlusFan loves Persona (it's also billed as an RPG, but that barely means anything these days). I also suspect that there's gonna be a bunch of Madoka Magica-isms (because it's gonna take a Monkey Paw's wish to get anything straighter than that), but hopefully they can keep the Magical Idol bullshit down to a dull roar.

What I will blow a Monkey Paw's wish on is for this to not be yet another VN because those are a dime-a-dozen and boring as shit (and outside of two screenshots, this is unfortunately looking pretty VN-ish).
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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2016, 11:17:36 PM »
Yeah, it sounds like it's a couple sausages short of being too VN-ish for my tastes, as well. I might get a kick or two out of it either way, though.

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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2016, 12:18:49 AM »
It looks kind of generic to me...

Kind of as I was saying in the anime thread, not sure Sailor Moon has really been surpassed... as far as magical girl games I think Magic Knight Rayearth for the Saturn still holds the crown.

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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2016, 02:49:42 AM »
It looks kind of generic to me...


Probably because it has the same artist they used for most, if not all of the PS3 Atelier games, and it's supposed to have a "shoujo" feel to it (I swear, sub-par/immitation shoujo always looks the same. Even moreso than the actual highlights of the "genre" that they're trying to mimic).

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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2016, 03:13:16 AM »
Seems a little fetishy. I don't think this is intended to be Magical Girl fiction in the traditional sense.

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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2016, 03:39:08 AM »
NVM, I was wrong. The genericness is everything. I don't know how much more bland and shallow every character, summerized plotpoint, and stated game mechanic has to come off as before the entire thing just fades into the backround? The more I look at it, the more it sounds like it's being made by an otome game generator...

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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2016, 08:02:13 AM »
You really only need to get two paragraphs in to know the writing is going to be utter trash.

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Any creator who fails to see the fundamental change human interaction has taken within the past 20 years is going to be drafting some painfully blind as a mole fiction.
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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2016, 09:47:39 AM »
Hold the phone though, it looks cute, it's just something I, the seasoned JRPG player, have seen before.

I actually played an Atelier, it was cute, there's just a lot of JRPGs and RPGs in general out, the market in general is pretty chaotic, hence titles like this would get a shrfit.

2003 me would of been like ZOMG YES! 2016 me is more... whatever... you get the idea.

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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2016, 11:03:19 AM »
You guys do realize that I was joking about the AtlusFan quip right?

Meh, whatever. But I still smell an S-Link knockoff mechanic in there somewhere, and if they had just came out and said "We have S-Links and Stands Persona", the whole lot of you would be on this like 'flies to a sensual pile of manure'. -_-

For now though, its back to licensed anime tie-ins for my Magical Girl JRPG fix.
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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2016, 01:21:52 PM »
And it seems the "emotionally distant Rei Ayanami-style moe girl" is supposed to be the main protagonist.  I assume that's who we'd play the game as.  Great, in a game all about forming bonds and forging friendships, I'm the cold fish character.  Yay, I get to be girl-Squall.  A part of me wonders if there will be any crazy Black Swan vicious rivalry type stuff in the game (what with Rei-Squall being a ballerina). 

I did like the music on the game's website.  That piano piece was quite lovely in its melancholy.  http://social.gust.co.jp/gakkou/index.html

My favorite magical-girl RPG is still Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon: Another Story (commonly referred to as Sailor Moon RPG) for Super Famicom.  And Ara Fell's developer's first project, Starlancer Six, had potential to be a decent magical girl JRPG but never went anywhere.
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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2016, 01:26:09 PM »
Haha I wouldn't count on Black Swan being an influence to Gust!

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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2016, 02:35:27 PM »
And it seems the "emotionally distant Rei Ayanami-style moe girl" is supposed to be the main protagonist.  I assume that's who we'd play the game as.  Great, in a game all about forming bonds and forging friendships, I'm the cold fish character.  Yay, I get to be girl-Squall.  A part of me wonders if there will be any crazy Black Swan vicious rivalry type stuff in the game (what with Rei-Squall being a ballerina). 

I did like the music on the game's website.  That piano piece was quite lovely in its melancholy.  http://social.gust.co.jp/gakkou/index.html

My favorite magical-girl RPG is still Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon: Another Story (commonly referred to as Sailor Moon RPG) for Super Famicom.  And Ara Fell's developer's first project, Starlancer Six, had potential to be a decent magical girl JRPG but never went anywhere.

Squall's attitude wasn't his problem (being a moody edgelord is one of the most stereotypical teenager archetypes around), it was the fact that literally everything revolved around him and his romance with Riona because everyone else was a massive idiot. If the focus was more on actually drawing him out of his shell instead of that dumb romance, it would've made for a far better story.

Unfortunately, this sounds like its gonna get into some serious Madoka Magica edgelord-ness so I can't say that your fears aren't well founded (I'd like to believe that Gust could pull it off, but they're a part of Koei Temco now and that's just a recipe for cheesecake).
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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2016, 04:59:28 PM »
And Ara Fell's developer's first project, Starlancer Six, had potential to be a decent magical girl JRPG but never went anywhere.

Dude, how do you find these things? I don't even see the game listed on their website, but it's obviously that old a project if it's using RPGMaker 2003...

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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2016, 05:18:41 AM »
It looks cute, I guess? (But why is the heroine's posture so bad? Why is she wearing shoes indoors? Why do these high school girls have the bodies of middle schoolers?) I hope it ends up going full on Madoka.

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Re: Blue Reflection
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2016, 05:56:02 AM »
I like the art. What makes me laugh though are each girl's "like". I mean, "Likes: Thinking"? It's the kind of thing I'd expect to see on a 10 year old's character creation assignment for creative writing or something.