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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
« Reply #1365 on: November 19, 2018, 11:03:27 PM »
That's hilarious because as it happens, after a particularly awful run in Aether Raids, I've decided to wash my hands of the mode once and for all. Since other players are simply going to walk over my dead body, I've set my Defensive Team up to only consist of 2 star Level 1 Gunter (lowest ranked with the highest mobility) and no other buildings beyond the ones required, tucked away so that Gunter will hopefully suicide on the enemy before they can break even one jar.

As for the rest of FEH, at this point I'm in it purely for the spectacle. I'll play for Orbs, but little else (and definitely not Grand Conquests because fuck that mode). What I want to see now is the 'plot' of Book 3, who they mass demote for the next mass demotion, the advent of 6 star rarity (of which, I am no longer under any illusion of reaching) and maybe a few more waifus (sucks that I have to wait until at least January for the next shot at Lucia).

I do know that we're in the final stretch for Book 2 as the latest banner is just Surtr and Ylgr (with Hrid as the incredibly likely candidate for our next Legendary). On that note, given how he's our next Legendary unit, and that January and March are going to be RD and Roy months, that means that we're down to two slots for possible Legendaries left between Caeda, Alm, Celica, Conrad, Sigurd, Seliph, Leif, Lilina, Eliwood, Elincia, Micaiah, Sanaki, Chrom, both Corrins, Azura, Xander, Alfonse, Bruno and Zacharias.


Edit: Just by looking at Surtr's skills, it seem like my decision is already paying off. Goddamn I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that kind of crap anymore.

Edit Book 2: And the next GHeB goes to Gharnef? Sure, why not. He's been MIA for far too long anyways (although his timing could've been better given where we are right now, at least he wins the prize for being the game's 100th Red unit; and also it has been forever since Archanea got a non-alt unit with E. Hardin way back in February). Also, all those Alts from Alt banner will stay in my dreams as none were demoted (at least they're in the pool, just good luck pulling them). At least Ylgr came home on 32 Orbs (with +Atk/-Def no less; she really wants a LaD or Desperation Seal to really get in).

Edit Book 3: I am a goddamn liar and hopelessly addicted, as I stupidly continue to waste my time and energy on Aether Raids and Grand Conquests. Btw, I've noticed that the devs are a bunch of scummy bastards who went ahead and actually adjusted enemy AI for Air Raids to acknowledge Dancers/Singers (in stuff like the Arena or Grand Conquests, the AI will typically move units first by their maximum range, followed by having Dancers/Singers either take to the offense themselves or refresh whichever unit remains within their reach; in Air Raids however, the AI will specifically check for a Refresher first, then check which unit is within an effective attack radius, and then specifically have the hard counter move up just enough to get refreshed and go to town on the bait unit). And they continue to be scummy bastards with overdesigned GHeBs that ruthlessly hate F2Pers with the full monty of bullshit (massively cramped starting area, reinforcement bumrush, Abyssal level Whale Bait skills on everybody, and all for yet another Red Tome Infantry with another otherwise useless gimmick Prf designed solely around being a dick in their respective GHeB; all they're missing are the massively overinflated stats to truly be Abyssal level bullshit). I mean, its manageable, but still scummy. At least Gharnef has some dece inheritance fodder with Chill Atk and Mirror Stance.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
« Reply #1366 on: November 25, 2018, 06:03:19 AM »
Some people are guessing Gharnef's PRF might be useful in Aether Raids, but the fact that it only hits non-magic units probably really hurts that because basically everybody is using 2-range units- DC just doesn't solve the problem when dazzling staves are everywhere. Cecilia MVP.

Speaking of which, annoying maps galore have prevented me from getting the bonus aether several matches in a row, leaving me with 42 leftover Aether which could've gotten me another match if I wasn't running into Veronica and one-shot wars in a super cramped map basically every single match. I also failed a match once again this season. It seems the annoyance is putting everything into balance though, because despite me doing a lot worse this week so far my rank is 1017. There's still 12 hours left of course, but I am fairly confident I can get another Golden Throne this week.

Next season has the dumb healing tower as the bonus building though, so I have a choice to make- either I get the healing tower to keep the stat advantage I've been enjoying so far, or I spend my stock to unlock my fifth unit slot. The latter sounds like it'll be a lot more useful, but there's been a ton of matches which just devolve into whoever one-shots the other first so losing 4 in every stat might make that a lot less reliable (plus Aversa will be worse at panic ploying everyone).

Also despite the odds for Iceloli or Evil Pyro being a lot better than usual, I'll probably wait for them to show up on a Legendary banner nonetheless because pity breakers are awful, and at least Legendary banners always guarantee you something kinda useful.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
« Reply #1367 on: November 25, 2018, 03:52:17 PM »
I wouldn't worry about accumulating Aether too much at this point, given how rapidly Aether costs are escalating versus our piddly +50 Aether daily restore. Soon, we're going to be seeing situations where, unless you have some kind of bullshit defense, it'll take two, three or even four days to gain 100 Lyft over where you started the week on (and that's if you make no fuck ups on your end).

Meanwhile, it seems that the popular thing to do nowadays is to rematch the player that cost you your 80 Lyft of the day, so that you can hopefully cost them their 80 Lyft back.

At any rate, I would hold off on upgrading your roster size until we hear back from our glorious mode leaders on whether or not you get whatever the Blue variant of Mountain Dew was called back from the upgrade or not, and if it fucks with Lyft gains/losses.

But for all the awfulness of Aether Raids, at least it hasn't turned into +10 Surtrs and Aversa bombs on top of the usual endless wave after wave of bullshit +10 Armors and +10 Dragons that Grand Conquest has. I'm not playing for rank this time (partly because of the above, but mostly because Aether Raids damn near got me to snap my phone in half, so I'm doing the sane thing and scaling my activities way the hell back, including Arena Assaults beyond once a week because 100 Feathers isn't worth having to put up with that mode anymore), and I really wish they'd roll back the mode to only have 20 Tiers instead of 25, because the less I have to play GCN, the better.


Edit: Prepare to be shocked and amazed....no wait. I meant the opposite of that. Its just Hrid and his best friends in the whole wide banner, Lyoma, Bowcina, Green Mage Hrid and Female "Will Never Leave These Goddamn Banners Until I Fucking Pull Her". Summers Cody, Innes and Noire are our seasonals of the banner (of which I already have 2), and the rest being rounded out by Brave Hector, Laevatien, F!Kana and Nina.

The Legendaries are meh, but the rest are solid pulls.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
« Reply #1368 on: November 26, 2018, 04:16:00 AM »
Honestly Surtr is pointless for Aether Raids IMO, yeah you gotta make sure you have a really strong Red to wall him off on your squad (or build Lilina to one-shot him), but he's relatively easy to play around like most armors are when you're not forced into using crappy armors yourself. In Grand Conquests he's just the worst though because he's basically invincible on forts, and trying to bait him out results in instant 20-damage.

Also my Aether costs are already at 60 per match- it's pretty crazy that there will be many days where the only match I'll get is my free one, but unlike a lot of the community I appreciate this mode only takes like 15-20 minutes to do your runs of every day (and that's if I'm going super slow to plan my turns ahead). Apparently a defense victory can protect you for 20 hours, not just a defeat, so it's not quite as dumb as first assumed and a high win/lose ratio will result in you getting bumped down less, but it also means you might get unlucky and get 5 defense wins and just happen to get your loss after that 20 hour mark, so that'll be fun.

Also also this new Legendary banner seems pretty good for me. With Blessed Gardens annoyingly requiring more and more teams, I'm going to try to get Lyoma and Bowcina alongside Hrid. Laevatein and Bector are also great units I wouldn't mind having, so Red and Blue will be my prime targets (watch me pull like 6 Summer Cordelias though). Don't really care much for Green or Colorless though. Getting merges for Gunnthra and Queen Squatter of Colorless is low on my priority list, don't care for the two seasonals (even though Summer Innes has a pretty nice statline and a hilarious weapon), Kana and her greasy hair have already been left in the dust, and Nina sucks and should've been demoted in the first place.

As for Hrid in particular, I have a Eliwood+8 and I was planning on building him with DC due to his solid RES, but I'm expecting Hrid to just completely outdate that idea, because Hrid
1. Comes with DC
2. Can stop all follow-ups with a relatively easy requirement
3. Will probably have low speed and good mixed bulk to capitalize on that
I even had Eliwood S-supported with Gunnthra already. Time for a Durandal refine IS (Hell, even Blazing Durandal is kinda outdated now).

Legendary Edit: Pretty much exactly as I guessed, Hrid not only has low SPD, but in fact has one of the lowest in the entire game, beating Arden out by 1 point at neutral (and losing to him by 3 points when baned). Whatever the case I dropped about 250 orbs on the Legendary banner and I managed to do pretty good. My 5*s were:
Hrid (+SPD -ATK)
Pewpew Lucina (+ATK -SPD)
Hrid (+DEF -ATK)
Flappy Ryoma (+SPD -ATK)
Laevatein (+SPD -HP)
Hrid (+ATK -HP)
Pewpew Lucina (+RES -ATK)
Was getting flooded by terrible IVs at first but the latter ones salvaged it a bit. Only natural I started off by pulling -ATK and -SPD on precisely everyone who doesn't want them. I'll probably end up using that SPD bane Lucina for now anyway, +6 ATK is probably worth the -3 SPD. That last +ATK Hrid is really nice though, he gets a superboon in that stat, though HP is a superbane on him too so that kinda sucks for his intended role. Also nice to have good IVs on Laevatein but I doubt I'll be using her all that much. Would've liked a Bector too, but I think getting all 3 of the Legendaries I was aiming for is already a really good result, so I won't complain too much. Now I gotta decide if I wanna merge the Hrids I got or finally start handing out DC to units.

Did okay on 3/4* pulls too, got a copy or 2 each of Athena/Shigure/Hinata/Soleil/Shanna, but didn't get any of the units I want to finish up merging for (mainly Draug, but +ATK Reinhardt also continues to elude me). Also no Silas- I actually really would like Steady Stance fodder right now.

Also I've played a bit of the new Forging Bonds and so far I'm liking it more than the previous ones. They need to structure more of them like this one. It still has FEH's typical sucking up to the summoner but its not nearly as bad so far. Pretty late to add some much-needed characterization for the Nifl squad, but better than never I suppose. Hopefully Book 3 actually sticks this shit at the beginning.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
« Reply #1369 on: November 28, 2018, 06:09:33 AM »
Welp. Just cleaned house on this banner. Hrid (+HP/-Def), Bowcina (+Def/-HP), and even that goddamn F!Grima who had been evading me on every goddamn Leg banner since March (+Atk/-Def). Also picked up a Nina (+Res/-Def), a Summer Cordelia (+Atk/-Def) and a spare Laevatein (+Atk/-Def) for good measure. Not bad on 70 Orbs.

Now to kick back and relax for the next 11+ hours when Book 3 starts. Suppose I should at least try for Surtr for the next VG as its going to be House Nifl vs House Muspell (it might suck since I don't have Laegjarn or Helbindi; but at least I have Ylgr and two Laevateins).


Edit: Book 3 did not start. I am disappoint. We don't even get a calendar for our troubles (nor I, a Surtr).

Meanwhile, Nifl Bonds still manages to spend far too much time jerking off the Summoner.


Editer: In a whoopise-daisy moment, Learn with Sharena let slip the existence of Light and Shadow seasons (who would've thunk that I could actually learn something from that). So if you're worried about Eliwood or Elincia not getting a Legendary alt, there's good news in that regard as there will be roughly 5 more slots to squeeze them in after all (not 8 of course because we're going to need the room for most of Book 3's OCs).

This also makes me hopeful about that 4 star Spoopy Henry they showed earlier in the month.


Edit to my Editer: Dropped 4 orbs on the VG banner for a +Atk/-Spd Laegjarn. She'll lose a few more Spd matchups but is otherwise effectively neutral. That should enable me to cover the spread at least. Addendum: Managed to also cash in on that 4.0 multiplier on the Ylgr and Surtr banner for a Surtr right after clearing Hrid Infernal. Sadly Surtr is +HP/-Def which is a poor trade and the end of my run of passable to good IVs.

Post Script: Might as well mention it here rather than necro up the thread on the SPR board, but IntSys announced an FE Event for Star Wars Day in JP. Kinda significant given how much further this goes over the various Directs, concerts and Cipher (that FE card game; not to be confused with that other FE card game, such as it was) events that the series has held in the past. For one, we're likely to finally get some follow up information in regards to Edgelord's Treehouse (nearly a full goddamn year after the last snippet of pre-release info). For another, the date of May 4th is rather suspiciously close to May 14th which was the release date of FE4, so an Echoes of Jugdral announcement might also be in the cards. But the most likely culprit will be either an Awakening or FEH anime announcement + trailer or something, because that's the kind of thing these Events are typically for in Japan.

Foot Note (not in APA because screw it, I ain't in college anymore): http://www.siliconera.com/2018/11/30/fire-emblem-expo-announced-for-may-4-2019-in-japan/
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
« Reply #1370 on: December 02, 2018, 12:33:06 AM »
Pretty cool the franchise is doing well enough to have its own expo I suppose, but I'm more on the side of suspecting this means another delay for Three Houses. Either that, or this will take place just before it's released and they'll simultaneously give us some kind of remake announcement.

Light/Shadow seasons is only half a surprise, it's obvious they would've found some way to continue whalebaiting, and adding another two rows to the Legendary chart is probably one of the less shitty options they could've given us (unless Light/Dark ends up being its own type of unit somehow, and they might announce something entirely separate anyway). Besides, there's a pretty good image that shows that they don't even need to add something like 6 stars anymore- they're already in the game.

As for my progress, even though I like this Forging Bonds a bit better since it isn't just showing off whatever the newest banner units are, as you said it's still a pretty big Summoner wankfest. When it's all said and done we still really don't learn that much about the characters. But like I said, hopefully they'll shift to doing this format for Forging Bonds more often, it's still an improvement, albeit a small one.

Also I haven't gotten a +10 for a while, but that's mostly because the units I'm merging up have not been showing up or have neutral IVs so I've been keeping them at like +6-8. Since Cecilia's been doing so much work in AR though, I thought she was deserving of me dropping my stock of feathers for (also I lost one match where she simply got overwhelmed by too many fucking units, so the extra merges will help):



Also also, I pulled a free Helbendi from the VG banner, but he's -ATK +SPD of course, so I guess I can make one of my Green units an Arena scorestick instead. The obvious choice would be Nino since I have her at +10 anyway, but she has no Prf and I get the feeling she won't have one anytime soon, so I'll hold onto him until that happens or I finish randomly merging up Bartre or something.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes
« Reply #1371 on: December 02, 2018, 07:03:05 AM »
Besides, there's a pretty good image that shows that they don't even need to add something like 6 stars anymore- they're already in the game.

Sure. Be pedantic why don't you....


That said, yeah. Guys like Surtr are essentially Armors BST Level 3 and that's probably where they're likely to go with this (and if that's the case then merges are hella safe; which would surprise the crap outta me, as I expected something wholly more scummy than just raise the BST and leave our woes, and early projects and/or money, behind). Of course, I'd rather have a larger sample pool of tier 3 BSTs (i.e. Surtr and Loki) before I go rushing off to grind units into merges just yet.

Still, what I was going for was more along the lines of providing an avenue to mass access to 4th tier skills beyond the current drip feed via whale bait (even though that describes the Skill situation pretty succinctly thus far; so few skills since launch have made it past 5 star lock, let alone the ones that aren't stranded on Seasonals or other limited run characters) or at least an avenue for dumb shit like Threaten Atk 4 or Defiant Atk 4, or other such effectively discontinued skills (they might even be able to fix some of them to not be completely worthless like they did with the Fortress skills).

At any rate, my biggest hope for Book 3 at this rate is basically availability of Year 1 Seasonals (in a fashion that isn't quite as tight-fisted as Grail War(rior)s) at 3-4 stars that'll finally open up some of the otherwise 5 star locked or Seasonal stranded skills. Besides, Year 1 Fall and Winter Seasonals are still pretty good (although everything prior to Year 1's Dancers are by-and-large crap aside from rare skill access like Bunny Lucina or Bride Lyn).

My biggest problem right now though is the question of what the devs plans for early Book 3 are. Book 2 brought Forges which have been generally decent, Legendaries plus their cumbersome Blessings, and eventually the mass demotion; but what are Book 3's plans? 8 more Legendaries, Beastformers... and Fire Emblem? (oh wait, that one's already in the game, thanks Star Lord). They need something more than just the Grail War(rior)s, especially as they haven't given us a good source of Grails yet (when only the top whales are getting 90 a week from the one available source we have so far (once people start actually reaching Tier 21 in a couple of weeks); which isn't even enough for one of these limited count units at their base cost, nevermind the rapidly escalating costs of subsequent purchases).


Also I haven't gotten a +10 for a while, but that's mostly because the units I'm merging up have not been showing up or have neutral IVs so I've been keeping them at like +6-8. Since Cecilia's been doing so much work in AR though, I thought she was deserving of me dropping my stock of feathers for (also I lost one match where she simply got overwhelmed by too many fucking units, so the extra merges will help):

And yeah, Cecilia still manages to roll over a great deal of the meta, somehow. I should've joined her and Eliwood to the hip instead of her and Camus and Eliwood and Ursula (albeit the latter is still rather humorous given the context of FE7).

Admittedly, I've also been kicking around the idea of slapping her Gronnraven+ tome onto someone else. The only problem is that aside from Boey, Soren or Merric, I can't really see anyone else wanting that niche over their current stuff, and/or are available enough to merge to +10 (hell the only Green Mages that have BST tier 2 so far are Lewyn, Rhajat, Sky Nino, Bride Sanaki and Spring Sharena), and these three aren't what I would consider to be an 'upgrade' (Boey has crap for Spd and an all-over-the-place stat spread otherwise; Merric has garbo Atk and Res that even TA3 couldn't do enough to fix; Soren would rather run his Gronnowl+Chill Atk 3 tome instead; and none of them have the convenience of Horse Emblem buffs).

That said, AR can still bite me, as I'm still sore over one match that brutally stonewalled me. Its pretty fucking ridiculous when a +1 Miccy, or a Cecilia with stats and skills much like you posted + full Horse Emblem boosts, can't even scratch a Blue Armor despite the complete lack of Svalinn's Shield, nevermind the other three Armors, also without Svalinn Shields, and also returning goose eggs for the most part (Miccy did blow up FaMyrrh easily enough). Even Aversa wouldn't have helped due to their massive HP pools. Granted, I still could've won the match had I 12 or so turns to slowly pry the enemy apart (and away from the Defensive Terrain) so that I could chip them to death, but cie la vie.


As for my progress, even though I like this Forging Bonds a bit better since it isn't just showing off whatever the newest banner units are, as you said it's still a pretty big Summoner wankfest. When it's all said and done we still really don't learn that much about the characters. But like I said, hopefully they'll shift to doing this format for Forging Bonds more often, it's still an improvement, albeit a small one.

Unfortunately, I can't see Forging Bonds improving much further for a long while to come. They always feel like they're designed around the banner rather than around the units. Kind of the same problem VGs have with their match ups (aside from every other fundamental fuck up VG sports).

Also, this game is like perpetually six months behind in everything it does.


Pretty cool the franchise is doing well enough to have its own expo I suppose, but I'm more on the side of suspecting this means another delay for Three Houses. Either that, or this will take place just before it's released and they'll simultaneously give us some kind of remake announcement.

At least I can understand the radio silence in reEdelgards to Three Horse since the series traditionally has that problem of discussing things that could lead to a case of a game featuring Sir 'Not Appearing in This Picture', due to cuts wrought by system limitations (FE4), overambition (FE5) or things not fitting in well in general (Fates DLC). In that context, I feel that Tea Houses is further along than many are suspecting, and we might start getting a signal by January or thereabouts. Though I wouldn't mind a delay either if it saves us from a repeat of Fates. My alternate guess to what I posted edited above would be FEWarriors 2: Lance Bugaloo (or YHWH help us, Tensei Megami Shin: #Switch Edition ("Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series")).

Either way we'll know more by this time next week (isn't that how it always is).


Edit: At least I'm ending AR on a high-ish note this week. No Casualties, no Aether left behind, and unless I miss my guess, no Lyft loss for today (that or I have yet to attract the whales; depends on what day that Successful Defense fell on). The only thing I could wish for from today was to actually clear the AR Tier 15 hurdle, instead of being -100 Lyft short.


AREdit: I don't know if its the band-aid over the the rest of this mode's ruthless stupidity or just complete bullshit, but getting docked 300 Lyft just because of a session transition is incredibly fucking irritating. You might as well not even try after you secure your highest available rank.


ForgEdit: Oh hey. The Whitewings are finally getting new weapons. Also Ogma, Navarre and the Robins. They might just finally get me to 5 star Navarre (so far, the only GHeB unit I don't have a 5 star of, for obvious reasons). That's 22 of the 80 inheritable/non-Seasonal weapon users introduced within the first six months that have received personal refines (meanwhile every Prf from launch until CYL1 have reforges except; Durandal, Armads, Tyrfing, Naga (although they still have evolutions), both Raijintos, Dark Aura/Excalibur, Gradivus, Siegfried, the Dire Thunders, either Ragnell, or the Cursed Lance). We're finally over the one-quarter mark for Refines.


VGEdit: Its that time of month again, and lol, Muspell has flamed out already. I'm still on Fjorm because I don't want to waste as much of my time on this game as I used to.


TappaEdit: So for the first time in months/since near its inception, Tappa Lab is not active. Also, the lack of anything resembling personalities did not save the older Nifls from burning up. Meanwhile sales figures took a big hit over November (...gee, I wonder why...).


ExpoEdit: As promised, some new info has surfaced about this, and it sounds like just another concert and little else. Nothing that looks to be about anything regarding Edelgard or her Three Houses. It does have some art stuffs on FE5 though, but mostly due to being close to its 20th release anniversary, and not necessarily leading to anything like a Echoes of Thracia announcement or similar nonsense. I guess the up side to all of this is that we might hear something in regards to FE3H sooner than May, especially now that the Year of Smash is finally over (pending those last 4 DLC characters).


SeasonEdit: Welp. Looks like we'll be getting our Fountain upgrade finally. Hopefully it'll cost Dew instead of Stones because if not, those fucking motherfuckers (I spent 300 Stones on a fifth Def Slot; which in all likelihood, will likely increase my overall Lyft more than whatever parsimonious amounts of Stamina the level 3 Fountain will bring in).
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