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« on: August 28, 2007, 11:30:56 AM »

As many of you already know, Breath of Fire II was recently added to the Wii's Virtual Console yesterday. Besides being one of the greatest RPGs created, there's one additional reason why you should download this masterpiece.

Let me explain.

Very few RPG franchises are able to reach over three installments before giving out. In the beginning, Ultima did, and Wizardry, Dragon Quest, and Final Fantasy followed soon after. Breath of Fire is also one of them. But now it has been nearly five years since we've seen a new title in the series. The poor sales of Breath of Fire V are likely to blame for this. Capcom was rumored to have given up on its only role-playing series, but the Virtual Console release of Breath of Fire II proves them wrong.

To make it brief, if Breath of Fire II doesn't receive many downloads, then it's the end of the series. Period, simple as that.

Join myself, and the many others, in keeping this fire alive for at least one more installment.
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2007, 11:34:09 AM »

If I had a Wii, and actually liked BoFII, I'd buy it. But I only liked from III on.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2007, 11:43:53 AM »

I really doubt the success (or lack thereof) of a glorified SNES rom is gonna have an effect on anything, in any way, form or fashion.
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2007, 12:08:48 PM »

Like I said, Capcom has no faith in the games whatsoever now. Notice how Breath of Fire is missing as a game series on their homepage. Or just try searching "Breath of Fire" in their online store.

It may be a simple SNES ROM, but if Capcom had any intention to continue the games it would start from here. If II doesn't sell at least fairly well, then we can probably forget about seeing any new games from the line. Unless it's resurrected years down the road, which had happened with a few series to date.

I know I'm not the only one, but I've always held anything Breath of Fire in high regards. I'd really hate to see it go now.
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2007, 12:10:52 PM »

It's Capcom, if Breath of Fire II becomes popular again it will only encourage them to port the older games to who knows what system.

And old Breath of Fire games being available again isn't exactly new either. The past few years, Breath Fire I & II were ported to the GBA, Breath of Fire III moved to the PSP and Breath of Fire IV was released as a PC game.
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2007, 03:54:26 PM »

I do think he has a point that good sales can make them consider reviving the series, the VC is probably one of the best ways to measure interest and certainly holds more weight than a hundred internet petitions, but I'm simply not interested enough to be honest. I enjoyed BoFII, but I got it and BoF1 on the GBA, BoFIV was gotten by me near-release and my brother got BoFV near-release too. Heck, if it came out in America I'd have gotten BoFIII, I'm fond of the game and would love to have it portable except that an import for $50 is a bit hard to swallow. While I didn't hesitate to throw the money for Shining Force at Sega, BoF had a pretty good run, while Shining Force could stand a good return to TRPGs, and then there's Earthbound.

I'd rather not trumpet around getting the game in this thread, when it comes to the VC I will give it it's own thread. But I've read a bit on Starmen.net where Nintendo Power staff say that if sales are good for Earthbound on the VC, it really will increase our chances of receiving Mother 3. In contrast I have no idea if Capcom cares, and it probably takes a lot more to convince a company to develop a whole new game than it does to translate (and possibly port?) one already made.

Edit: With that said, it's good to see a decent traditional JRPG on the VC, not one that's a dungeon crawler of some sort or significantly off like an action/tactical/Mario RPG.
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2007, 05:08:45 PM »

...Isn't this spam?

I think you guys should check out Alice Cooper's myspace -- Shock rock till we drop !
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2007, 05:18:11 PM »

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...Isn't this spam?

Uhhh, no. I may not be a mod, but spam would be something like a newcomer popping in just to link to a no name game/forum/petition he wants others to go to and not actually contributing anything, and the random porn/home loan/blood pressure is even more clearcut. This is just drawing attention to a recent release in the hopes that more getting it would increase chances of a new game, not to mention he made an actual argument in his post.

I wouldn't want to call it spam or get it locked up anyway because I want to do the same when Earthbound arrives, and I'd rather not at best look like a hypocrite, at worst get it locked and ignored. Not to mention that we could start a slippery slope if stuff like this gets blown off as spam and locked. Oh hey, someone's mentioning a game just released to download! SPAMLOCKED

Edit: Though the rules technically say that if it's advertising something it's spam. Still though, I don't think is the kind of advertising meant.

Edit 2: Not to mention my VC RPG thread scrolled off page so this would kinda double as a BoFII topic anyway.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2007, 09:18:47 PM »

Breath of Fire: DQ is pretty much the only entry in the series that I hold in high regards, so I have little interest in downloading the earlier entries in the series.
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2007, 09:39:12 PM »

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If I had a Wii, and actually liked BoFII, I'd buy it. But I only liked from III on.


Strange. The first two in the series were the only ones I held in high regard.

Either way, it's strange that we see the release of II before I on the VC. I assume this is because *Square* published the first game in the US, not Capcom ... and so far Square hasn't put any of their games thru the ol' VC.

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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2007, 09:44:00 PM »

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If I had a Wii, and actually liked BoFII, I'd buy it. But I only liked from III on.


Strange. The first two in the series were the only ones I held in high regard.


Seconded.  Loved 1 and 2, 3 was 'meh,' 4 was 'okay at best,' and I absolutely loathed Dragon Quarter.  Personally, I don't mind that the series has (seemingly) come to a close.
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2007, 09:45:18 PM »

Quote from: "Ramza"
and so far Square hasn't put any of their games thru the ol' VC.



Anyways, Capcom released the GBA port with no issues, and some of the choices of which to upload have been kinda screwy with everyone else anyways - Super Castlevania came out way ahead of the original CV, and Super Mario 64 was on the VC on day one but SMB and beyond were missing, and we're still missing SMB3.

Edit: Also... The BoF series hasn't been that standout anyway. Mother's oddball and one of a kind, while I don't want a Mother 4 made unless Shigesato Itoi really wants to do it, but I'd like to get 3 to come out here. The one unique entry in BoF has had people completely torn over it, and likely will not be copied if the series continues.
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2007, 10:21:16 PM »

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and so far Square hasn't put any of their games thru the ol' VC.




Technically, ActRaiser is from Enix (under the Quintet team.) :P
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2007, 10:24:04 PM »

I know. But they're merged and spoke presumably as a whole when they said they didn't think people were ready for downloadables. Actraiser seems to indicate they'd rather port/remake to death their bigger, more popular games while ones that would simply be a loss would be thrown up for download.
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2007, 10:47:50 PM »

I used to like four a lot buy tried playing it some more this summer and I couldn't really find anything to like with it. Only ones I like are 2 and 5. I think five's very well made. I can't really find anything notable about 2 (other than Katt being naked and made of T&A and jumping around etc) so I'm not sure why I like it.
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