FFXII just came out a little less than a year ago, and DQVIII a year before that. Unless you're talking about ENJOYING it long enough to reach 40+, then that's a whole different argument.
Didn't like FFXII, and DQ8 (or most DQ's) arn't really my thing. I also kinda miss the game series' that WERE good, but then gone bad (oh Secret of Mana, you're still a gem to me!).