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« Reply #75 on: November 04, 2007, 10:19:12 PM »

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+ Good soundtrack
+ Great graphics
+ Interesting battle system

- Not all the stories are interesting
- Sometimes difficult to figure out what to do
- Gets repetitive at times.

Hmmm. My next choice is......

Tsugunai Atonement


Tsugunai Atonement

+I really liked the combat/defense system
+Decent Music
+Awesome premise

-Bland Graphics and art design
-Generic characters
-Only one town? Heh.

I choose you, The Legend of Dragoon!
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« Reply #76 on: November 04, 2007, 10:46:56 PM »

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+Awesome premise


The main character, Reise, is a Raven, a sort of mercenary who takes dangerous jobs to earn a living. The game opens as Reise climbs an ancient tower to retrieve the Treasure Orb, a sacred artifact. In doing so, he angers the gods, who retaliate by separating Reise's body and soul. In order to atone for his sins, Reise must demonstrate kindness and courage by assisting the denizens of a small fishing village. He accomplishes this by possessing the bodies of those he needs to help, in order to allow them to accomplish tasks that they will not or cannot accomplish by themselves. In time, he ends up saving the village from a great evil.

....Wow, it almost makes me feel bad that this game sucked.  That IS awesome. =o
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« Reply #77 on: November 04, 2007, 11:12:02 PM »

Legend of Dragoon

+Pretty good soundtrack
+Good length
+Excellent battle system
Bonus +: TV Spot was great

-Cliched story arcs
-Most bosses went down without a fight
-What the heck was Melbu doing in that tree?

Next: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
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« Reply #78 on: November 04, 2007, 11:21:25 PM »

Pokemon D/P

+Its Pokemon!
+the amounts of wicked and pointless watch features
+finally, online-ish capabilities

-Its pokemon!
-a story I've played through three other times
-e.z.

Treasure of the Rudras (if you've heard of it)
otherwise... Odin Sphere
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« Reply #79 on: November 04, 2007, 11:32:56 PM »

Odin Sphere

+Absolutely terrific visuals and art
+Great combat systems
+Great characters/story

-Frequent frame drops really ruin some of the best parts/bosses in the game
-Too much loading for my taste
-Pretty generic music for the most part

Next up: Persona 2
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« Reply #80 on: November 04, 2007, 11:58:40 PM »

Persona 2...

+Deep customization especially for the time.
+Interesting and deep rumor system.
+Real life setting.

-Dungeon Design was bland and repetitive.
-Talking to monsters was tedious.(fun at times however)
-Innocent Sin never came out in English :(

Next up: Arc the Lad:Twilight of the Spirits
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« Reply #81 on: November 05, 2007, 01:14:45 PM »

Arc the Lad:Twilight of the Spirits

+Darc's half of the story was pretty damn cool
+Story told from two perspectives
+Environments looked nice


-The other half of the story was a cliché fest (and what kind of name is Kharg anyway? Sounds like the sound my cats makes when she coughing up a hairball...)
-Worst case of Mary Sue-ism EVER
-Had very few strategic elements even though the battlesystem was similar to that of a strategy RPG

Next: Growlanser III
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« Reply #82 on: November 05, 2007, 03:15:53 PM »

Reference for anyone who (like me) is new to the term "Mary Sue-ism."  I was surprised I'd never heard it before, since it's been around for a while.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue
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« Reply #83 on: November 06, 2007, 12:41:00 AM »

Growlanser III: The Dual Darkness

+ Satoshi Urushihara is one hell of a character designer, and the 2D graphics are well done.
+ Political plot that is more interesting than the usual "slay the dragon, save the princess" or overly pretentious "main character is a schitzophrenic reincarnation of a religious figure" fare.
+ Ring Weapon system (which was actually introduced in Growlanser II) is pretty cool.

- The battle system in Growlanser II and III is extremely slow and often tedious.  Dungeons take forever.
- Spell animations are pretty lame.
- Occasionally unbalanced difficulty level.

I choose you, Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim.
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« Reply #84 on: November 06, 2007, 01:07:37 AM »

Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim.

+Hard and challenging game.
+Well designed bosses.
+Very fun game.

-Can be repetitive.
-Way too short
-Not much depth and the story is kind of meh.

Next game: Grandia . If already said, then Seiken Densetsu 3.
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« Reply #85 on: November 06, 2007, 07:43:54 AM »

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Next game: Grandia

+ Fantastic battle system
+ *Great* soundtrack
+ Characters have alot of personality.

- Story can get a bit hokey at times
- Voice acting can grate
- Crossing that wall at the End of the World is really boring.

Honestly, I had a hard time coming up with negatives for this, other than voice acting. This is a real sentimental favourite for me and I still play it about once a year or so.

Next up - Battletech. Or The Bard's Tale. (The original - not the PS2 remake!)
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« Reply #86 on: November 06, 2007, 07:03:51 PM »

The Bard's Tale

+ Genuinely unique character classes.
+ Battle system was solid and a logical progression from what Wizardry had done.
+ The graphics are quite impressive for the time, and have aged far better than some of the other graphics from the era -- Ultima 4's, for instance.

- The sewers were sort of... blegh?
- There really wasn't much to it -- Just kill your enemies, level up, buy new items, and keep going. Especially in comparison to Ultima 4, which came out the same year...
- I guess it has to be said, but the sequels DID really improve stuff.

Also (Sort of) The PC version, compared to, say, the Atari ST and Amiga versions, was obviously lacking. In general there's, er, a rather... big quality skew between ports.
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« Reply #87 on: November 06, 2007, 08:50:51 PM »

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The Bard's Tale

+ Genuinely unique character classes.
+ Battle system was solid and a logical progression from what Wizardry had done.
+ The graphics are quite impressive for the time, and have aged far better than some of the other graphics from the era -- Ultima 4's, for instance.

- The sewers were sort of... blegh?
- There really wasn't much to it -- Just kill your enemies, level up, buy new items, and keep going. Especially in comparison to Ultima 4, which came out the same year...
- I guess it has to be said, but the sequels DID really improve stuff.

Also (Sort of) The PC version, compared to, say, the Atari ST and Amiga versions, was obviously lacking. In general there's, er, a rather... big quality skew between ports.
You forgot to recommend the next RPG
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« Reply #88 on: November 06, 2007, 09:06:35 PM »

*cough* the original Bard's Tale was also on NES.
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« Reply #89 on: November 06, 2007, 10:30:50 PM »

OK, no suggestion for a new one, so I'm doing what I want. :)

Diablo 2 (including the Lord of Destruction expansion)

+ Fun and accessible, with enough loot to keep you collecting for a long time
+ Expansion pack added a LOT of worthwhile stuff
+ 7 distinct classes (including expansion classes) that were all different and fun to play


- Patches you needed to fix bugs also made huge changes to gameplay that could take a character you had put many, many hours into developing and make them worthless
- Tons of items to collect and craft, but not much space to store them in, making collecting any rare sets very difficult
- Rampant cheating, item duping, and annoying kiddies online made multiplayer a lot less fun to play



And since I'm looking for more hacky-slashy here, I'm calling out Marvel Ultimate Alliance next.
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