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« on: April 11, 2006, 11:17:31 PM »

http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=kgbR_GWzWWs&search=zelda
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2006, 11:39:28 PM »

That brings back some memories.  I certainly didn't have that easy of a time with it when I played it (well, I was only 6 after all).  Still one of the best music themes in video game history.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2006, 12:08:14 AM »

Wow, that's pretty impressive. I couldn't do it. The latter dungeons in the game still give me trouble.

Dammit, now I want to play it!
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2006, 07:16:33 AM »

This would be a lot more impressive it it wasn't "being played extraordinarily, using an emulator as a tool to overcome human limitations such as skill and reflex."
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2006, 07:53:05 PM »

True that it is possibly something like that. There was an SMB3 movie floating around like that a year or two ago. But then again, I was once able to complete Megaman 2 on hard mode in 40 minutes without dying and while playing on an actual NES, and on a daily basis to boot. So I think these things are possible without cheating, they just take lots of time and practice.

And yes, I really could do that up until about two years ago.
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2006, 03:34:00 PM »

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This would be a lot more impressive it it wasn't "being played extraordinarily, using an emulator as a tool to overcome human limitations such as skill and reflex."

Seconded. :)

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There was an SMB3 movie floating around like that a year or two ago.
That was most likely from a guy by the name of "Morimoto." It had become such a big internet phenomenon even outside of the speedrunning community that a good number of people that didn't understand the classification of "tool assisted" and assumed it wasn't such a big feat. There IS an unacceptable limit of cheesing in tool-assisted runs among the community, but pure skills will always be judged as superior recordings.

The current world record for a non tool-assisted, single segment run of Zelda can be found here.
http://speeddemosarchive.com/demo.pl?Zelda1_3334
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2006, 04:40:41 PM »

Yeah, I'm not such a fan of these tool assisted runs.  But the actual speed runs where the folks can and do fuck up are excellent.  Speeddemosarchive.com is great.
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2006, 06:18:28 PM »

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Yeah, I'm not such a fan of these tool assisted runs.  But the actual speed runs where the folks can and do fuck up are excellent.  Speeddemosarchive.com is great.

No joke dude.  Watching someone zip through Mario 64 in twenty minutes and not knowing if they're going to nail those Bowser throws or not....well, let's just say that's easily the most stimulating part of the video. :)
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2006, 07:40:42 PM »

for real, tool-assisted is a joke. Real impressive, right? I can quicksave and quickload a lot to keep my time down!!

The only time I ever attempted to make a speedrun of my own was with Super Metroid. I was trying to clear it with 100% items with a record time. The current record time (according to the in-game clock, not the video length) was like 57 minutes. My best was an hour and 41 minutes. Ah well. I was still pleased with how freaking good I am at the game. ^^

Suede, it's good to see you here, and your posts on this thread really got me fired up about tool-assisted BS. Keep up the good stuff!

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2006, 07:57:30 PM »

Geez guys, stop bashing on the tool assisted runs.  They aren't -that- easy to do. :P
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2006, 02:13:35 AM »

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for real, tool-assisted is a joke. Real impressive, right? I can quicksave and quickload a lot to keep my time down!!


... And your times would be crushed by 10 or 15 minutes by the people that do it.  And if they didn't, then your non-tool-assisted speedruns would be weak because you're missing a technique that's doable but is unlikely to be discovered except through tool-assisted speedruns.
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2006, 06:53:46 AM »

Yeah, their time would be crushed by ten to fifteen minutes, save for the fact that they replay some parts well in excess.  So yeah, the file may be a world record of fifteen minutes to beat Adventures of Lolo, but the actual time that it takes them to finish the save file is several months.

Oh yes, really great.  :P
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2006, 12:58:11 PM »

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