Dissidia Final Fantasy

[Eusis]

It really doesn't seem that overrated. GameRankings puts it at 82%, reviews seem to be somewhat mixed, and I'm not seeing anyone rational proclaim this as one of the best fighters EVER. MGS4 is something I think of as overrated, pretty good but NOT worthy of the pedestal some like GameSpot have put it on.

[Dios GX]

most of the hardcore fighting community tends to view it that way.

I don't see how this is even a "fighting game." Who cares about that bullshit. I call it Dissidia, and it rocks for what it is. If we're just going to compare apples to oranges all day, then I'll jump on the old Kurenai bandwagon and say that smash bros is a shitty RPG.

[Hidoshi]

Then you have no credibility. Dissidia is sold as a fighting game, has the tropes of a fighting game, and plays like a fighting game. It's very strong in its genre, despite incorporating certain RPG elements. One might as well say that Tekken isn't a fighting game because it has a quest mode, or that Tobal No. 1 wasn't for having the same.

It's a fighting game Tony. I called you out on your statement and it seems you can't accept that. This isn't "apples to oranges" at all. If you can't deal with that, oh well.

[Ashtrot]

Smash isn't sold as a fighting game. It's sold as a party game.

[Hidoshi]

That's fine too, fighters can be party games. Power Stone 2 was sold that way. Fact is though, Smash IS clearly a fighting game. It'd be silly and pointless to say otherwise.

[Ashtrot]

I don't know. Kind of annoys me how everything has to be competitive these days, to the point where you end up taking out what makes a game fun (I.E. Smash's items and huge roster).

[Hidoshi]

I actually think Smash is a lot more fun without items, even non-competitively.

As to competition: Once you really figure out the mechanics of a game and start playing it at a high level, you can have a lot more fun than people just goofing around. It's a different kind of fun, but I think it's a lot more satisfying. You start to see and feel things in a game that weren't apparent before. You can think about tactics and implement them properly, without fumbling around.