Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
October 22, 2014, 04:23:42 AM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
RPGFan Community Quiz!
Persona 3 FES Quiz is now OVER!
Winner was user: Monsoon!
334648 Posts in 13706 Topics by 2200 Members
Latest Member: Rgeneb1
* Home Help Search Login Register
+  RPGFan Message Boards
|-+  Media
| |-+  Anime, TV, and Movies
| | |-+  Watchmen trailer!
« previous next »
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 Print
Author Topic: Watchmen trailer!  (Read 10726 times)
Eusis
Administrator
Posts: 11797


Member
*


View Profile
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2009, 07:04:20 PM »

HAHA! That's hilarious! It should have been a mini arc or something.

It is, click next.
Logged
Blace
Posts: 3803


Member
*


View Profile Email

Ignore
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2009, 12:32:24 AM »

I went and saw it tonight. It was enjoyable, but not having read the graphic novel, I was definitely confused and overwhelmed by the narrative. The action scenes were great, but some of cast didn't fit. Malin Akerman should have been replaced by someone who could actually show emotion (we all know she was just there for T&A). I thought Rorshach was very well done, and Night Owl wasn't bad. Everyone else I didn't care for. I thought the movie was a little too long also and the fact that there is apparently a director's cut that takes this over 3 hours is ridiculous. It's not a supreme comic book movie, but it's a decent and enjoyable one.
Logged

Dice
Super Happy Fun Super Girl
AMG A GIRL
Posts: 10592


Tawdry Hepburn

Member
*


View Profile WWW

Ignore
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2009, 12:42:14 AM »

Having NOT read the source material....I loved this movie. =D
I liek working backwards.... so now the comic will enlighten me further.

I was stuck in a theatre with virgin highschool boys, so any shot of blue penis (kinda funny to say, now, actually) was always snickered on.

I loved the cast, and the deep morals rooted into the film. =)
Logged

http://society6.com/Dice963
http://www.redbubble.com/people/dice9633

Support your local Dice (and pitch her ideas)!
AJR
Totally groovy
Posts: 610


Oh, this burning beard.

Member
*


View Profile WWW

Ignore
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2009, 04:08:16 AM »

Since more people have seen the movie, I think now's the time to post Saturday Morning Watchmen. It has spoilers in it, so if you haven't read the comic/seen the movie I would suggest steering clear of it.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2009, 04:20:52 AM by AJR » Logged

Earth-2.net is a website where I occasionally type words about entertaining pieces of media.
Lard
Posts: 5716


Member
*


View Profile

Ignore
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2009, 05:54:33 AM »

HAHA! That's hilarious! It should have been a mini arc or something.

It is, click next.

Despite my growing resentment towards the hyping of this (overkill, as always with hype), that was pretty funny.
Logged

I avoid online multiplayer because my brain still works.
Tooker
RPGFan Editor
Posts: 9477


Member
*

king_friday@hotmail.com PeopleJohnT bigfatusername@yahoo.com
View Profile
« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2009, 12:05:57 PM »

Since more people have seen the movie, I think now's the time to post Saturday Morning Watchmen. It has spoilers in it, so if you haven't read the comic/seen the movie I would suggest steering clear of it.

Good point - the PVP comic has spoilers, too, so... sorry if my lack of warning ruined anything for anyone. 

I have to say that I've really been struggling with picking up the graphic novel and reading it again this week before I see the movie.  Part of me wants to, part of me says "it's only been two months since you read it!"  Aw, heck - I'm gonna read it again and just hope I don't overload myself.
Logged

Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.
—Kurt Vonnegut
Dincrest
Spectrum
RPGFan Editor
Posts: 11880


Stumpy McGunder- thumps

Member
*


View Profile WWW
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2009, 03:26:51 PM »

I was stuck in a theatre with virgin highschool boys, so any shot of blue penis (kinda funny to say, now, actually) was always snickered on.


And that's why I liked the movie (I just got back from it.)  The director didn't wuss out on anything.  The violence was brutal, Dr. Manhattan was nude, some parts of the movie were hard to watch, etc.  That's why I loved the comic in the first place and I thought it stayed as true to the comic as any movie of its nature would, the ending was done well, and I liked that the cast wasn't an A-list cast. 

Fantastic movie.  Of course people are going to bitch that a lot of the comic was not in the movie, but it didn't matter.  If the movie inspires audiences to go out and read The Watchmen for the "tr00" experience, then fantastic. 

I don't get why some people are complaining that it's long.  It didn't feel long to me at all.  Then again, The Watchmen itself is not a rollicking high actiony comic in the first place. 

I was surprised that there were families with kids in the theater.  The Watchmen is not a movie for kids by any means, but I guess people still have that old fashioned mentality that comic books are kid stuff.  And Dice- I'll bet after your moviegoing experience that you'll go Rorschach on anyone who attempts a "blue balls" joke for a while. (please don't hurt me.)
« Last Edit: March 08, 2009, 03:35:36 PM by Dincrest » Logged

Next bike-a-thon: Diabetes Tour-de-Cure 2015
Blace
Posts: 3803


Member
*


View Profile Email

Ignore
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2009, 05:45:18 PM »

Gonna have to disagree and say I did think this movie was far too long. The plot was too hard to follow for someone like me who hasn't read it before and the pace was plodding. I didn't like Night Owl or Silk Spectre in the slightest and they spent way too much time on their relationship when I was much more interested in Rorschach and Dr. Manhattan. The sex scene was also absolutely ridiculous and far too long. Everyone in the theater was just looking around and talking to each other, waiting for it to end.
Logged

AJR
Totally groovy
Posts: 610


Oh, this burning beard.

Member
*


View Profile WWW

Ignore
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2009, 06:55:59 PM »

Yeah, I was disappointed in the relationship between Laurie and Dan. That was one of my favourite parts of the comic. Two people coming together amongst all the chaos was one of the few genuinely happy moments. In the movie the whole thing felt a little flat, Ackerman can’t act and Wilson felt like he was just going through the motions at times. I couldn’t get connected to either of them.

In regards to the length; I think in order to get all that story in there they needed to make it that long. Even cutting out the stuff I didn’t care for, I still think it would have been around two and a half hours. They’d really have to change up the story significantly in order to shorten it down, something that I think would have pissed off people even more.
Logged

Earth-2.net is a website where I occasionally type words about entertaining pieces of media.
Dincrest
Spectrum
RPGFan Editor
Posts: 11880


Stumpy McGunder- thumps

Member
*


View Profile WWW
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2009, 08:28:16 PM »

But even the Laurie/Dan relationship is the kind of complaint anyone would have regarding any movie based on a book.  Some concessions will always have to be made, and oftentimes interpersonal relationships heavily described in books get pruned in movies.  Even with Gone With the Wind, one of my favorite movies of all time.  In the movie, I found Melanie to be an insufferably shallow Mary Sue character and Ashley to be a one-dimensional wuss, but they're deeper and more fleshed out in the book.  But if the movie went deeper into Melanie and Ashley, then it'd be far longer than its already epic 4 hours.  The book itself is over 1000 pages, so it's no secret that stuff got pruned.

The Watchmen is the kind of movie where no matter what, people are going to complain.  People will complain that key aspects of the book were ignored or marginalized. People will complain about the sex and full frontal nudity of Dr. Manhattan.   People will complain about the ending.  People will complain about Rorschach's voice.  I'm willing to bet that there are people out there who will complain that Dr. Manhattan was more "endowed" in the movie than he was in the comic.   

The movie isn't perfect, especially given the source material its based on.  The Watchmen is one of the best graphic novels ever written.  But considering all that, Snyder did a pretty good job nailing the license. 

And, yes, in both the book and the film Rorschach is the most compelling character.  His scenes are always the most intense.  It's no surprise that he's been named one of the most compelling comic book characters of all time and I guarantee that come convention season, there will be a glut of cosplayers dressed up as Rorschach. 
« Last Edit: March 08, 2009, 09:24:03 PM by Dincrest » Logged

Next bike-a-thon: Diabetes Tour-de-Cure 2015
Hathen
Posts: 1964


FORUM IDIOT

Member
*


View Profile

Ignore
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2009, 01:27:20 PM »

Personally I don't think Snyder understood any of the things that Alan Moore was trying to show with Watchmen, he just directly copied comic panels and let people interpret it the same way they did the comic.

Though I did like the new ending- that's actually one of the things that brought me around, believe it or not.
Logged
Dincrest
Spectrum
RPGFan Editor
Posts: 11880


Stumpy McGunder- thumps

Member
*


View Profile WWW
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2009, 01:32:11 PM »

Personally I don't think Snyder understood any of the things that Alan Moore was trying to show with Watchmen, he just directly copied comic panels and let people interpret it the same way they did the comic.


I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, though.  I do agree about the movie's ending.  I thought it was well done. 

Like any movie based on a book, the book is always better.  Possible exception being The Whale Rider.  I have yet to read the book Slumdog Millionaire was based on, so I can't comment on that one.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2009, 01:33:55 PM by Dincrest » Logged

Next bike-a-thon: Diabetes Tour-de-Cure 2015
Blace
Posts: 3803


Member
*


View Profile Email

Ignore
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2009, 01:52:12 PM »

We all know source material is better than its adaptation, but they could have at least made this a film instead of copying the graphic novel. Things that work in the graphic novel don't work the same way on the big screen. That's why the Harry Potter movies are so successful. Even though they aren't as good as the books people still love them because the people involved do what ever it is they can to make it an enjoyable watch, and if that means tweaking character development, changing a climactic scene, or whatever then so be it. Snyder didn't have the balls to make it his own. Just like Chris Columbus didn't with the first two Harry Potter movies (which are considered the worst ones). That's why they moved on and got other directors for that series.
Logged

Tooker
RPGFan Editor
Posts: 9477


Member
*

king_friday@hotmail.com PeopleJohnT bigfatusername@yahoo.com
View Profile
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2009, 02:29:00 PM »

Watched it yesterday, thought it was OK, but was glad I knew the graphic novel so I understood things like why Manhattan went from clothed to naked.

Didn't loathe the new ending, but didn't like it, either.  I think...

Code:
It's been made very clear that everybody's scared of the US because Dr. Manhattan is American.  If he really destroyed cities around the world, people wouldn't be all nice to each other.  They'd say "the US is the real enemy.  Let's destroy them."  (See also: real-world Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11.)
Logged

Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.
—Kurt Vonnegut
Hidoshi
RPGFan's Open Source Field Agent
Posts: 2901


Built This House

Member
*

clothothespinner@hotmail.com BrandingRune
View Profile WWW

Ignore
« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2009, 08:11:38 PM »

Watchmen didn't come off as long or poorly acted to me. It came off as convoluted and confused about itself. Ozymandias' plan is in no way realistic, and for a man who's supposed to be the smartest in the world, he's gone out of his way to make a pipe dream a reality. Beyond that, the movie ended up being horribly preachy about human affairs and events, using its alternate reality backdrop in such a way that I felt like I was listening to a hardline right-wing pastor speak about the end of days.

Aside from Nite Owl and Silk Spectre's respective backgrounds, I found the movie rather uninteresting. Nite Owl and Silk Spectre feel human, genuine. If not for the softcore pornography moment, I'd like them a whole lot better too. That whole session feels so stilted, it hurts the whole movie. I'm fine with passion and erotica, but I felt like it was out of a bad porno. Most erotica does it better.

The opening was great. That's my favourite part of the movie. The rest? I could have watched this on DVD and saved a few bucks.
Logged
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  



Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.20 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!