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« on: September 17, 2008, 08:46:03 PM »

Looking to buy a new TV, what should I get? Imma use it for playing Xbox 360 and PS3 later on. should I go with 108p, 720i? 1080i?
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2008, 08:52:40 PM »

If you want the best quality, 1080i is it ( I believe). It isn't going to be cheap though. What's your price range?
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2008, 08:54:20 PM »

There's no such thing as 720i, just 720p (i = interlaced like the TV you presumably have now, p = progressive scan and unlike the aforementioned TV), and 1080p (there IS a 1080i though!) might not be practical given few games genuinely support it and most are just upscaled to that. I'd look for a 720p TV unless you're going for a huge one or really care about getting full resolution from blu-rays, in which case you'll probably want 1080p.

By the way Progressive is better than Interlaced, progressive does the whole image at once while interlaced does it by every other line.
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2008, 09:11:27 PM »

My limit is $1200


So I should go with 1080i for xbox 360?
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2008, 09:30:57 PM »

I'd say 720p would be better(well if they sell TV's at 720p)  I know my friend bought a 1080i and he doesn't use it at that resolution at all and sticks solely to 720p which really does look a lot nicer.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2008, 09:51:00 PM »

Here's an article I got on 720p vs 1080i when quickly googling. The big points are that 720p (progressive period) is better for fast moving pictures, and isn't an issue for HDTVs since any worth a damn will support both, so it's really 720p vs 1080p, Blace is wrong about 1080i being the best. Your budget is good for a decently sized 720p display I think, I got my 26 inch Bravia for a little under a thousand in early 2007, and I see those for around, I think, $600-800 normally.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2008, 09:54:16 PM »

So is 720p better than 1080p then? I always thought 1080 was the best... good thing this thread came up before I bought MY new HDTV in 2 weeks. I planned on getting a 38 inch Sony 1080p for about 1000 bucks.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2008, 10:15:52 PM »

That's not what I said, I said you were wrong about 1080i. 1080p is the best, but it's not supported (properly) as often as 720p is. In fact, a lot of games these days render at a slightly lower resolution and just upscale to 720p/1080p. 1080p is best to go for for movie aficionados though who have way more than $1200 to blow, especially since you'll notice it more with larger screens.

Anyways, for comparison's sake two Samsung TVs: 40" 720p TV and 37" 1080p.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2008, 10:21:46 PM »

Alrighty thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2008, 11:10:05 PM »

For $1200 I would recommend a good 720p set. Unless you are going to go for something more than 40" a lot of the awesome of 1080p is lost as the screen is just too small to really tell the difference. This comes from a person with a Samsung 40: 1080p tv. I won't say it's not awesome but if I set my 360 to 720p it's pretty much the same deal. A good brand name 720p tv at $1200 would do you much better than a cheap name 1080p set.

Going by say the two that Eusis showed, the 40" is the better buy, it's the 720p panel version of my 40" 1080p set. It's better for two reasons, 1) as I said the 37" lcd would have even a lesser effect on picture quality than my set as it's smaller and 2) the speakers on those bitches face the wall so they're not fun to use and the extra money could be spent on some decent extra speakers. If you don't have surround sound buy some asap, getting an optical cable for my 360 almost made more difference than my hdmi cable.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2008, 11:25:45 PM »

A big brand like Samsung or Sony is a safe purchase, but you can still get a good product with, say, Westinghouse. I'd recommend looking into it more.

Also something I forgot and is important: MAKE SURE IT HAS A GAME MODE. HDTVs have lag in processing the image, while this stands out more with normal SD picture (240p and 480i) it'll still improve 480p upwards. It'll give the biggest improvement for fighting and music games, but anything significantly relying on good reflexes will benefit. If you want to know more about upscale lag read this.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 01:12:09 AM »

Realistically those sets linked aren't *that* bad. I can junk around with it tomorrow to bother checking if there's a noticable decrease in video lag on game mode. I've never really had that big a problem with video lag (Rock Band needs ~45-60ms to get the right feel going). Ghosting hasn't been an issue either really except for some reason the Angel DVD Season 1-2 (3 and up seem to have much better image quality and the ghosting isn't as big a deal). Most low quality video just looks like ass on the higher resolution anyways so poor compression will always not be a good time with a nice tv.
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 09:37:01 AM »

I only own Westinghouse TVs, not by some brand loyalty originally, but because they were the nicest looking ones in the price range I was looking. I personally think they are great TVs. They look sharper than a lot of the other LCDs I have looked at, as well as having less of the fuzz around certain bright colors. For the price that you will find a 37inch Westinghouse you can buy a 30inch Samsung or Sony and not get something that looks that much better.
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 12:23:45 PM »

I checked my tv this morning and the game mode did manage to reduce the lag almost in half (from 60 to 35ms) so that's pretty good. Seriously it's almost impossible to buy a really crappy lcd nowadays, essentially the only think to look out for is to make sure it's actually widescreen. There's a number of very cheap models from companies like Philips that are a widescreen picture with a square resolution so just make sure if you are looking at cheap models that you are actually getting a widescreen resolution (one phillips model I seen said 720p (1024*768) that's not a widescreen resolution so you want to be careful)
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2008, 01:01:06 PM »

I bought my 50" samsung DLP with matching stand for $1000.

Amazing picture, better black levels than LCD and plasma, no risk of burn in, no lamp to change (LED version), can play old games at 4:3 ratio with no issues, zero lag.

LCD and Plasma are a waste.
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