Megami Tensei Topic

[Lucca]

I really like Devil Survivor's music. My only complaint is there's just not enough of it. The same tunes repeat over and over.

As to Strange Journey, I'm stoked that the cast does not look like teenagers. A game where the PCs are over 18? NO WAY. Course, it could just be the suits.

I'm pleasantly surprised at how nifty this title looks. I'll totally go for a game that has a good SMTish storyline with dungeon crawling. Least, that's my hope for this game.

[kyuusei]

Over-18 PCs are good!

I love Devil Survivor's music as well.

Of Course Atlus is gonna bring Strange Journey over here.

Aw damn, I tried the URL at the bottom right in the last scan, but it doesn't work. (Yet.)

[jj984jj]

Boring and trite.

As opposed to another Persona game? They've been milking it since 2006.

I'm much more excited for this and hope SMTIV follows before they go back to spin-offs on the consoles, it's awesome to see Kaneko doing character designs for turn-based SMT games again.

[Dincrest]

Getting to converse with demons again is cool.

[Lard]

Amazon has Nocturne and DDS 1 & 2 for $30 each.

That's a steal - go buy them.

http://www.amazon.com/Shin-Megami-Tensei-Nocturne-Playstation-2/dp/B00024W1U6/ref=dp_cp_ob_vg_title_1

[kyuusei]

Yeah, I got DDS and Nocturne there, but got DDS2 off Amazon.ca instead for the free shipping :P

[erwos]

As opposed to another Persona game? They've been milking it since 2006.

As far as I'm concerned, they can keep milking that series until the games start to suck or blend together. Persona 3 FES was a masterpiece, and Persona 4 was just fantastic. Maybe bump it up to college kids next time - that should provide for some more varied S.Links.

I played a teensy bit of Devil Survivor over the weekend, and I'm a little meh on it. Story and characters aren't growing on me very much yet, but the battle system is pretty interesting.

[Gen Eric Gui]

As much as I loved Persona 4, the idea is pretty well played out already.  You're right, P3 was very good and P4 only improved on everything, but I think they've pretty well tapped that well dry and they need to move on.  To make the next game better and still interesting, they'd need to make some pretty serious overhauls to the system, and at that point they might as well just make another new game.  Which, thankfully, is what we're getting with Strange Journey.

[kyuusei]

As far as I'm concerned, they can keep milking that series until the games start to suck or blend together. Persona 3 FES was a masterpiece, and Persona 4 was just fantastic. Maybe bump it up to college kids next time - that should provide for some more varied S.Links.

I played a teensy bit of Devil Survivor over the weekend, and I'm a little meh on it. Story and characters aren't growing on me very much yet, but the battle system is pretty interesting.

I'd like to see them return to Persona although not right away, but in a couple years from now and do SMT4 first or something. And then do a Persona 5 with a bit of a revamped system (but keep the Social Links), with college kids like you said - and maybe a female protagonist? That'd change things up a bit.

I enjoy the system. I agree the exact same thing for a 3rd game would be tired. My one complaint about Persona 3/4 is that while 4 really improved on the gameplay, the story declined (with the exception of the Dojimas) from how good 3's was.

[Raziel]

As much as I loved Persona 4, the idea is pretty well played out already.  You're right, P3 was very good and P4 only improved on everything, but I think they've pretty well tapped that well dry and they need to move on.  To make the next game better and still interesting, they'd need to make some pretty serious overhauls to the system, and at that point they might as well just make another new game.  Which, thankfully, is what we're getting with Strange Journey.

Agreed, although I'd like to add that P4 was weaker than P3. At least that's what I think.

[kyuusei]

Agreed, although I'd like to add that P4 was weaker than P3. At least that's what I think.

Curious. In what way? Story, characters, gameplay, or which? Or do you mean overall?

[erwos]

Curious. In what way? Story, characters, gameplay, or which? Or do you mean overall?

I think there was a general consensus that Persona 4's story was weaker, but that the gameplay had some very welcome improvements. In my eyes, that's not a slight on Persona 4's story, really - it's just a very difficult thing to follow a mind-blowing story like Persona 3 FES had.

I've always thought of Persona as being more about the deep relationships that people have with each other than about a particular battle system or whatever. (That same thing is what I think gave Lost Odyssey a lot of its punch, too, as a matter of fact.) I think I'd care more about seeing the S.Links improve than the battle system. A college campus and a female protagonist would give S.Links and the story some new places to go, and, in my opinion, keep the series fresh.

Of course, if they just launched a complete cash-in title that was just P2/P3/P4 characters in a giant cross-over, I'd buy that, too, because I am a total Persona nut.

[kyuusei]

Curious. In what way? Story, characters, gameplay, or which? Or do you mean overall?

I think there was a general consensus that Persona 4's story was weaker, but that the gameplay had some very welcome improvements. In my eyes, that's not a slight on Persona 4's story, really - it's just a very difficult thing to follow a mind-blowing story like Persona 3 FES had.

I don't disagree at all, I just wanted to hear his opinion since he didn't specify what it was about Persona 4 that he found weak.

I think the story had potential to be better than it was, but 1) it got off to a REALLY slow start which discouraged me greatly at first and 2) where I am, at December 20th, the conclusions thus far have been a total letdown. Granted, I haven't FINISHED the game obviously, and there's still room for a satisfying explanation for the fog and the TV world, although from what I heard, the explanations are kind of lame and/or vague.

But even aside all that, it'd have been hard to beat Persona 3's story.

I've always thought of Persona as being more about the deep relationships that people have with each other than about a particular battle system or whatever. (That same thing is what I think gave Lost Odyssey a lot of its punch, too, as a matter of fact.) I think I'd care more about seeing the S.Links improve than the battle system. A college campus and a female protagonist would give S.Links and the story some new places to go, and, in my opinion, keep the series fresh.

Yeah, I do tend to go for games with more character/story/relationship development. Which is why I love Persona it seems, although, I won't turn down a decent battle system either.

I think, when I beat the final boss, I'll write a review or something that compares P3 and 4.

[Dincrest]

MegaTen games have rarely had female leads.  The few I can think of offhand are Shin Megami Tensei If where you can select a male or female avatar, Devil Children: Red Book (Mirai), and Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (Maya.)  One aspect I really liked about EP was the writing and portrayal of adult protagonists.  Granted, the Persona games write teenagers very well, but it would be nice to visit a Persona world with some adults again.  Sometimes those unresolved inner demons from the formative youth years rear their ugly heads in adulthood.  They certainly did for some of EP's characters. 

MegaTen with an adult female lead would be awesome. 

[kyuusei]

Oh yeah, I know well this series hasn't had many female leads - which is why I think it would be a nice change-up. :)

I still want Persona 2, the prices on eBay are just retarded.