Are you OK with your 11 year old giving a BJ?

[Dincrest]

I don't know what it is, but young girls these days do seem to be growing up way too fast.  Just this afternoon on my bike ride, a girl who was probably 12 or so (she looked middle school) holla'd at me in a flirty way while she was walking down the sidewalk with her friend.  A similar thing happened to me last year with a 12 year old holla'ing to me out a van window.  On the one hand it was a teensy bit flattering because I never got that kind of attention from girls when I was in middle school, but during the rest of my bike ride I was creeped out and kept thinking, "shouldn't these girls be flirting with boys their own age?"   

EDIT:  Why does wacky stuff always happen to me when I'm on my bike? 

[MeshGearFox]

Dincrest's Black Sexual Prowess strikes again.

I think the better question is how many 11 year olds are fellating their delicious Burger King whoppers.

[Fei]

Just this afternoon on my bike ride, a girl who was probably 12 or so (she looked middle school) holla'd at me in a flirty way while she was walking down the sidewalk with her friend. 

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EDIT:  Why does wacky stuff always happen to me when I'm on my bike? 

This has been happening to me too.  The first time, I was on foot... and the girl just says "Hi" and is sorta walking with me.  The second time, the same girl was outside with her younger brother, and the little bastard starts screaming "Stranger danger!  Stranger danger!"  I was just minding my own business, but then the girl says to her brother "Shut up, he's my friend!"  So awkward... 

I was carrying my skateboard with me at the time.  I think we need to get cars to attract an older audience :P  Just kidding.

Anyway, I was still afraid of burning in hell if I had premarital sex when I was that age.  I don't want to speak too highly of religious upbringings because the same teachings that kept me a good boy also had me convinced that the world was ending in 2000 (I graduated in 2001 and didn't think I'd have to go to college).

My girlfriend has two kids.  One is a 7 year old boy.  If he knocks anyone up before he turns 18, I will be beyond furious.  He barely makes peepee jokes, and the longer he waits the better.  I wouldn't let him hang out with anyone who is sexually active... but rather than just taking his friends away, I'd try to find something that is more interesting to him.  If you take something away, you need to replace it.

Part of me hopes they turn out homosexual, but that's just me being selfish.

[Ashtrot]

I'm not even telling my daughter she has a vagina until she's 18.

[Azrael]

I think pcmaker's question about being a parent would definitely change the perception.  I am not a parent but I have an 11 year old sister and if I EVER found out she was out giving BJ's to ANYONE I would probably smack the crap out of her.  Just the thought of her doing that to any guy at her age and level of maturity GREATLY disturbs me.  Sure this kind of thing happened in days gone by but I also think the maturity level of an 11 year old when people lived much shorter lives was far higher than it is right now.  Any way that I can look at it, if it were me in Pcmaker's shoes I would've let the parents have it without a doubt.  To treat this kind of action so nonchalantly is disgusting.  I wouldn't really blame the girl though and wouldn't bar her as a friend to my child, but it would certainly be uncomfortable if her parents aren't willing to talk to her.

[Hathen]

I'm pretty sure nobody was actually saying that the parents of this child were being responsible, I certainly think if kids are learning about sex younger and younger that parents should talk to their kids about it. If a kid gives BJs and HJs and you leave it alone, actual intercourse probably isn't far behind it.

[Prime Mover]

I'm pretty sure nobody was actually saying that the parents of this child were being responsible, I certainly think if kids are learning about sex younger and younger that parents should talk to their kids about it. If a kid gives BJs and HJs and you leave it alone, actual intercourse probably isn't far behind it.

Bingo. I'm not going to mince words, I don't believe that any 11-year-old is probably ready for sexual activity, but hard limits aren't very productive, either. Parents just need to be more involved in their children's lives, and communicate more. So many parents either 1) let their children run wild, or 2) strap their kids to a chair and shelter them from the outside world. Either of these extremes is very devistating, But the biggest problem I see is that parents don't respect their children. Parents need to stop "owning" their children, and learn how to work out situations multilaterally. I don't think I can do this yet, which is why, at 28, I'm not planning on having children any time soon.

[MeshGearFox]

Like most people in Ohio, I lost my virginity when I was 12.

To a cow.

[Losfer]

Dumb parents have dumb kids.  Pcmaker, you totally should have smashed her dad's face in.  I'm on your side.

Eleven year olds giving blowjobs?  And the parents siding because it's safer?

My God, having children should require having an exam to make sure you're fit.  Society is fucked.

[Dincrest]

Part of me hopes they turn out homosexual, but that's just me being selfish.

On the other hand, studies have shown that homosexuals or those with sexual identity issues may sexually experiment more often and at earlier ages than "normally" developing kids because they're trying to make sense out of being anomalies in a "normal" world.  Trying to disambiguate identity like that must be really tough. 

Aside:  the girls in my "tag you're it" story were college-age, which is why it's the story I most like to tell.  So it is possible to attract ladies our age with bicycles and skateboards.  We wheeled warriors walk on the wild side, we laugh in the face of danger!  :P

And when it comes to issues surrounding kids, it becomes a different ballgame when you're a parent.  I'm not a parent, but I am an educator.  If it was any of our hypothetical precious little daughters presenting herself in such a way that boys merely see her as a receptacle for their sexual urges rather than a human being/a person... it ain't gonna be pretty, that's for sure.  And this is not even getting into the whole issue of self-respect, self-esteem, and self-image.

But no matter how old the kids get, even in adulthood when they're married with kids of their own it's tough to see them as sexual beings.  In much the same way, it's hard for kids to see their parents that way.  Even adults get creeped out at the idea that their parents have sex. 

[Ryos]

The reality is, as long as it's just BJs and HJs, there is no risk of pregnancy or disease (well, little to none for disease).

Totally false! Maybe there's a lower risk of HIV, but there are PLENTY of other STDs that can be easily transmitted by oral sex...
http://std.about.com/od/riskfactorsforstds/a/oralsexsafesex.htm

The myth that BJs are safer and/or are not really sex at all ("why yes I am a virgin, but I have given and/or received over 9,000 blowjobs!") irritates me.  Parents, as mentioned, just need to get this talk over with sooner since those impressionable young lads and lasses are apparently incapable of restraint at younger ages.  Parents seem to shy away from that sort of thing.  Heck, I never got my sex talk at all and I'm 27. 

[Sagacious-T]

I am honestly TERRIFIED over ever raising a daughter in this country. I feel like most guys I meet (I live in a major city) are kind of asses with sex as one of their major goals. I don't want a daughter to be the product of a poor pop culture corrupting her. I know great parents can teach their kids better than anything else and influence their children in good ways, but at the same time it's hard to compete with the surrounding lifestyle.

My best friend's sister ran away from home with some gangbanger the moment she turned 18. His parents are really good people too. You just can't win against an entire horrible culture.

If I did have a kid in this country it definitely wouldn't be here in the midwest. I would prefer to raise a family else though, perhaps somewhere in Europe (I'm an EU Citizen) or a non-extremist country in the Middle East.

I just see terrible people everywhere and it really scares the hell out of me to think my offspring could join them.

[Serene Prophet]

Agreed, I know my mom just got pregnant, itll be her and my dads first (shes my step mom).  And if Its a girl, I know ill be paranoid as hell.  My parents are good people, they raised me well, despite my troubles, and instilled good values.  I can only hope the same is done of my lil sis or bro, cause guys can be roped into the culture just as much as any girl, they just tend to be the assholes out of it than the victims..if that makes sense.

Still I thinks its kinda stupid, I mean at 12 I was attracted to girls and stuff, but I mean I never thought about having sex with them, I just wanted a GF to hang out with and so I could be cool haha.

I dunno what it is about our society, most arguments I tend to just disagree with, stating the reason you think its worse is mainly because we have way more ways to hear about it and are more open, but this is the one thing I think that has gotten worse.  Its sad, I mean I know a girl since she was 11, took her under my wing as a little sister, helped her through some family troubles and stuff, and when I found out she lost her virginity at 14 I was pretty pissed off about it, and shes not even related by blood or anything. 

Overall though, if we cant stop them, the best we can do is teach em to be as safe as possible I suppose.  Im sick of seeing young mothers, most without the father, and the few young fathers with no mother.  That kind of stuff just drives me nuts.  I totally agree we should have some sort of reversable sterilization, so that people have to prove they have the money and the stableness or something to raise a child, cause so many of these idiots just dont have any idea, nor any right to raise a child.  And I dont feel sorry for the parents, I feel sorry for that kid because they will probably repeat the cycle. 

I mean in my case my dad and my birth mom had me at 20 and 18 respectively so they are an example (My mom left at 2 so it was a single dad thing, hence why I have a little more sympathy for the single dads), though they arnt because im 22 now and am still a virgin, something im perfectly fine with.  Not so ok with never having had a GF before, but hey, life is what it is and we make it what it is.  I always told my friends to use protection, not to be idiots, even if it was sorta "uncool" for me to say it.  Minds well hear it from somebody.  Sadly some didnt listen..but alas.

So yeah thats my 2 cents on the deal.

[Dios GX]

Where've you been? This is nothing new. They get drunk as welll as other stuff....

And no, that girl not a little slut. A BJ is rather minor, thank god shes not pregnant.

I apologize, but you are fucking retarded as hell. Just because it's been going on lately doesn't make it anywhere near "okay." Let the trend continue escalating as it has, and in a few years time, giving 12 year olds legalized abortions in their third term will be "minor" too. All because idiots like the father mentioned in the original post, don't give a shit about this sort of thing. Your mindset is fucking brainwashed, sorry to say, but it's pretty absurd you can even say that.

One of my best friends around here is finally getting it through his head he can't go around railing every chick in sight, as now, he's paid for about eight abortions, and it's starting to affect him mentally and emotionally. He thought it was just a "minor" thing to go fuck girls and go about his way.

There's a thing called discipline, and when it's ignored when it becomes convenient, eventually, it gets ignored forever. So fuck your mindset and fuck everybody who follows it.

[bigdeath]

Where've you been? This is nothing new. They get drunk as welll as other stuff....

And no, that girl not a little slut. A BJ is rather minor, thank god shes not pregnant.

I apologize, but you are fucking retarded as hell. Just because it's been going on lately doesn't make it anywhere near "okay."

Err, I never said it was ok. But it certainly been on the news years ago so its nothing new. Which is why I latter said that parents need to educate their kids at an early age because we do not want 11 year olds giving birth or getting abortions.


And if your going to call someone a fucking retarded why apologize when its clear your not sorry (otherwise you wouldn't say it)? I take it there was a misunderstanding so I hope this clears up my intended meaning.