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« on: October 14, 2009, 08:01:08 PM »

http://yenpress.us/?p=1696

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SUMMED UP: Spice & Wolf was originally a light novel in Japan about a female wolf god thing (pardon my horrid/inaccurate summary) who anthro's into a pretty girl with wolf ears and tail. 

Yen Press is bringing an official translation the super popular title to fans in the States.  HOWEVER, they're providing a cover that is trying to appeal to fans of more than just anime, but fantasy as well.  They're trying to expand their market.  The original anime-based cover has been exchanged for a 3D woman, but is similar in spirit of the novel(and yes, Horo, the main wold-girl character, is seen naked).

Of course this will cause a fuss for the fans.

Yen Press thought ahead on the issue and will also be providing a slip cover of the original anime-art to appease the fans.  Some of the fans are still pretty pissed.  (Check out the comments below the article; you'll see several about "cancelling my pre-order").
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I personally support the idea.  Manga's (or Japanese publications in general) still don't sell very well here (Square Enix made a recent comment in regards to this) and I think they're doing the right thing.  I think the NA cover could be a bit better (the model has some sort of beaver-teeth thing happening), but with the added slip, I don't see why fans should complain to a business trying to maker more bang for their buck.  For the amount of stir this is causing, I don't think people are addressing the fact that Yen Press has to make money to produce more goods Stateside; and one way to do that is by appealing to a broader audience.  I think I actually made this post to express my utter disgust for fan boys and "otaku's".
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009, 08:13:49 PM »

Well personally, if i see that cover in some store, i wouldnt even think twice about looking it again, it would scare me xD, but well i dont know how is in general, i personally prefer to see an anime girl than a 3D girl like that O_o, i mean... they could at least made something less weird for it... but well, maybe for the most of people is a good idea? but when they open it and see the anime it would piss them off? lol i dont know. But either way, these days the world is more open up to everything as well as people's mind, so i dont know what reaction would this cause... but in conclusion, in my opninion, things should stick to its original.

And why is this here? isnt this part only for console rpgs o.0?
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2009, 08:25:37 PM »

Isn't this more appropriate for the Brush & Quill forum? It's not even electronic!

Anyways, this doesn't look like too bad of a change, I feared for the worst when it read 3D Art and didn't realize that may've still applied to non-computer art. Besides, books get their covers changed for international release all the time, just look at all the different covers Dune got, and many people have probably seen at some point, say, the different covers Harry Potter got for the US and Britain. I do prefer seeing the original cover retained generally, but that tends to apply more for video games, for books I find seeing the different international covers fascinating more often than not.

As for the book itself, it honestly doesn't sound like something I particularly care to read.

Edit: Oh, hey, now I look at the other URLs I got for searching for Dune covers, and it looks like they changed them again in the US, and they're mostly just desert pictures! Which fits technically, but is really kind of boring across 6 books and I rather liked Chapterhouse Dune's cover. Glad I grabbed the book before this change, even though I have yet to actually read it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 08:57:29 PM »

Isn't this more appropriate for the Brush & Quill forum? It's not even electronic!


I'm honestly *super sorry* Eus.  I had a moment of stupid.... I'm running on three hours of sleep and little food.
Can this be moved???  Haha, this is sort of embarrassing.

I agree it's not really a much better cover, and it might be misleading in some way.  But from a marketing perspective, this was probably the best idea. =/
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 10:03:34 PM »

lol when u said this is sort of embarrasing i dunno why it made me laught so much
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2009, 01:51:56 AM »

In regards to the S-E thingamabob: Manga has been part of Japanese culture for a lot longer than it has any Western. The fact is that it's sold differently over there too, not always in trade paperback but in large volumes and singles alike. I'm sure a fairer comparison would be with regular Western comics in their home markets. I'm not sure Square-Enix is taking that into account.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2009, 02:28:29 AM »

I really have no idea what you're saying there Mark. It's not even SE related as far as I can tell, Yen Press just translates and publishes some of their manga and has plugged it on the side of the page, but that's not related to the light novel I don't think. Also, I'm not sure what you're getting at with the comics but depending on your angle I don't think that's necessarily relevant to this either.
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2009, 09:56:44 AM »

Sorry, was tired there. I was responding to this:

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I personally support the idea.  Manga's (or Japanese publications in general) still don't sell very well here (Square Enix made a recent comment in regards to this) and I think they're doing the right thing.  I think the NA cover could be a bit better (the model has some sort of beaver-teeth thing happening), but with the added slip, I don't see why fans should complain to a business trying to maker more bang for their buck.  For the amount of stir this is causing, I don't think people are addressing the fact that Yen Press has to make money to produce more goods Stateside; and one way to do that is by appealing to a broader audience.  I think I actually made this post to express my utter disgust for fan boys and "otaku's".

To clarify: I think that if we're going to say that manga doesn't sell well here (and thereby make credible this kind of marketing) just because S-E says it doesn't, were not looking at the market appropriately. Sure manga may not sell well in the West compared with Japan, but that's to be expected. It's not our native product and doesn't have the same entrenched value as our own comic books. S-E's notion that manga should somehow sell anywhere near as well here as it does in Japan is pretty silly.

Original issue here: http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/10/11/why-manga-doesnt-sell-overseas/ (Link is very NSFW owing to a racy header image)
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2009, 11:12:41 AM »

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I think people should read real books instead of creepy Japanese furry porn :(

Okay, all joking aside, the cover looks like some sort of crappy Twilight ripoff which will probably help this sell more since that WOULD immediately appeal to the teenage girl audience. I guess.

Is this even good? It doesn't sound very good. Is this still that "anime fans will watch anything that's anime even if it sucks" thing?

Also the girl on the original cover looks like some sort of creepy hydrocephalic rape artist with anorexia. Additionally EARS DO NOT COME OUT OF YOUR HAIR. Actually I miss 70s and 80s anime in general back when people were screwing with anatomy on purpose and actually knew what they were doing and still occasionally drew characters with real noses.

I mean seriously, here's Gundam: http://images3.jlist.com/g2/20090312140106_12_400.gif It's Japanese and anime but the anatomy more or less *makes sense*.

Can someone explain to my WHY anime is looking progressively more and more like some bizarre parody of anime?

Also http://www.arrakis.co.uk/jpg/danish_dune.jpg ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha oh god.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009, 05:15:09 PM »

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I think people should read real books instead of creepy Japanese furry porn :(


Hmmm... what about American furry/werewolf porn? heh heh.  But seriously, half the stuff I see on the fantasy/sci-fi shelves of bookstores is lycanthropic erotica being passed off as action fantasy.

EDIT: As for Spice & Wolf, I didn't find either cover all that appealing, though the Japanese "box art" was a bit nicer.  
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2009, 06:58:40 PM »

Spice and Wolf is actually pretty entertaining. Whether or not it's "good" is... well, debatable. I subjectively enjoyed it, but I can't defend it in a serious arena. It's somewhat typical of a television show: using tired gags and whatnot. Still, I had fun with it.

Also, the "ears growing out of hair" thing is a stylistic issue. I don't think the artists today are any less talented than those in the 70's and 80's (especially not the 70's; that was a pretty rough era overall). Remember that 90% of everything is crap. A bad practice of some nostalgic fans is to compare the general look of things today with something rather high-quality of yesterday. They do not, however, do the converse, comparing the general look of things back then with something high-quality today.

ie: Appleseed Ex Machina is a fantastic piece of modern anime. It's comparable to quite a few older greats. The old Getter Robo show, despite its fanbase's objections, was not a particularly good example of anime. It's comparable to more run-of-the-mill shows today like Gundam 00.

Basically in each era, there are shining examples standing out from the masses. It's better to compare them with each other, rather than with the common stream.
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2009, 02:09:15 AM »

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That's always better because it's made of patriotism and eagles.

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