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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2010, 11:37:21 PM »

He's genuinely interested in second opinions though, because I could be wrong about something. He's kinda dedicated to the whole research thing, and not just taking someone's opinion as law.
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2010, 11:43:12 PM »

then he might want to do actual research rather than waiting for more opinions to arrive
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2010, 12:02:09 AM »

then he might want to do actual research rather than waiting for more opinions to arrive

Well.....  Wikipedia says the game is 2D action-adventure game.  and on gamespot's and ebgames's websites, Most if not all castlevania games,  are listed in either action or fighting category.  not to mention that if you play as Belmont, All the RPG elements is gone.  before mark told me.  the term "castlevania" and the term "role playing games"  never connected.

so in one ear, Mark is telling me it's a RPG games, while steve screams in the other ear telling me otherwise.

So to prevent further arguments.  I'm doing a little research. (gathering data from the masses is a part of research).

and Parn,  if you don't like the post, you can just ignore it.  you really don't NEED to troll it.  nice to know you are making new member feel at home.

I'm going to check out Crystalis now.

thanks for the info.
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2010, 12:22:57 AM »

While I agree that SoN is on the RPG side of the RPG line, I consider Action-Adventure to simply be a better fit than just RPG (and Action-Adventure-RPG to be better still).
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2010, 12:25:40 AM »

and Parn,  if you don't like the post, you can just ignore it.  you really don't NEED to troll it.  nice to know you are making new member feel at home.

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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2010, 01:01:42 AM »

then he might want to do actual research rather than waiting for more opinions to arrive

Well.....  Wikipedia says the game is 2D action-adventure game.  and on gamespot's and ebgames's websites, Most if not all castlevania games,  are listed in either action or fighting category.  not to mention that if you play as Belmont, All the RPG elements is gone.  before mark told me.  the term "castlevania" and the term "role playing games"  never connected.

so in one ear, Mark is telling me it's a RPG games, while steve screams in the other ear telling me otherwise.

So to prevent further arguments.  I'm doing a little research. (gathering data from the masses is a part of research).

and Parn,  if you don't like the post, you can just ignore it.  you really don't NEED to troll it.  nice to know you are making new member feel at home.

I'm going to check out Crystalis now.

thanks for the info.

Wikipedia does say it's an Action RPG under the stats sidebar. Also, both this site and RPGamer list it as an action-RPG. Most gamers, if not all accept it as one, and every review I've ever read on it either calls it that directly, or comments heavily on its status as an action-RPG.

But dude, regardless of all sources, it IS an RPG. It has a statistics system, equipment, a progressing storyline, cutscenes, experience points, levels, and everything that makes an RPG an RPG. The only slight difference is that its battle system is real time and side-scrolling, which plenty of RPGs have anyway.
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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2010, 01:17:43 AM »

a progressing storyline, cutscenes

These are the worst reasons to justify something as an RPG.
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2010, 01:26:02 AM »

Show me an RPG that doesn't have these. :P There are many, many genres which do use said things, but they're integral to RPGs overall.
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2010, 01:32:12 AM »

Show me an RPG that doesn't have these. :P

Double Dungeon has only the barest of stories, but more importantly this can be flipped: Just how many games DON'T have any story whatsoever? Unless it's in a genre that typically doesn't even try or doesn't need to like sports and puzzle titles it'll be there, you may as well say a game's an RPG because you control a character.
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« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2010, 01:40:08 AM »

Symphony of the Night can easily get away with being categorised as both an RPG and an Adventure game. It plays very much like the Metroid games (which explains the common comparison with Super Metroid) which I would call Adventure titles. Also, there's experience, stats, and equipment. Therefore, I can easily call it an RPG Adventure, along with all the other Castlevania games that play like this one.
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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2010, 01:42:02 AM »

Show me an RPG that doesn't have these. :P

Double Dungeon has only the barest of stories, but more importantly this can be flipped: Just how many games DON'T have any story whatsoever? Unless it's in a genre that typically doesn't even try or doesn't need to like sports and puzzle titles it'll be there, you may as well say a game's an RPG because you control a character.

You very well know that's not the damned point of what I said. :P
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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2010, 01:47:44 AM »

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can you give me 5 games that falls under the same category of action-rpg as SotN?

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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2010, 01:53:05 AM »

So, is god of war an action -RPG as well then?
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« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2010, 01:55:41 AM »

Nope. God of War is an action-adventure game. It does HAVE RPG elements such as the skill tree, but it definitely doesn't feel like an RPG, nor does it incorporate enough elements from RPGs to qualify as one.

Also, my editorial here may be of help: http://rpgfan.com/news/2009/450.html
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« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2010, 01:59:10 AM »

Show me an RPG that doesn't have these. :P

Double Dungeon has only the barest of stories, but more importantly this can be flipped: Just how many games DON'T have any story whatsoever? Unless it's in a genre that typically doesn't even try or doesn't need to like sports and puzzle titles it'll be there, you may as well say a game's an RPG because you control a character.

You very well know that's not the damned point of what I said. :P

No, I want to call out and show just how much of a misguided notion it is to use something as common as story as a reason something can be branded an RPG, ESPECIALLY in a series like Castlevania where story is one of the last reasons to play them. The rest I don't care to argue about because it's more or less valid reasoning.
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