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« Reply #3975 on: December 15, 2014, 05:01:38 PM »

no zooey > all zooeys real or imagined, past present and future
How is it you and I argue so frequently? You rarely have a different opinion from me.
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« Reply #3976 on: December 15, 2014, 10:27:41 PM »

I thought Elf was pretty good, not the definitive Christmas movie that a lot of people think it is, but still an entertaining movie. Only thing I didn't like about it was the scene that did an especially good job at highlighting how freakin' creepy "Baby It's Cold Outside" really is.

That song is awful no matter who is singing it, or what the circumstances are.

Plus, Dark haired Zooey > blonde Zooey


I actually had no idea that was even Zooey in that movie. Damn. She looks good as a blonde but yeah, dark hair is better.
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« Reply #3977 on: December 18, 2014, 01:15:09 AM »

Hunger Games: Mocking Jay - Part 1

= What a title.

= How many times can we get Jen Lawrence to cry on camera: [*stopped counting at 10*]

= Peeta x Katniss are terribly uninteresting as far as their chemistry goes.  So how do we make it more uninteresting?  Let's make a good tenth of Katniss's dialogue of her saying/shouting/crying the name "Peeta"!! 
...What the fuck.  This girl.  This tough girl...  Literally every scene was about doing something for Peeta, thinking about Peeta, or crying for this blonde prig.  Maybe i'd buy into it more if their chemistry didn't feel so awkward, they're 'opposites attract' but I don't see the attraction working.

= You rarely see actresses deliberately age themselves up (rather, look their age without all the makeup, hair colouring, etc.) unless they're doing a period piece where, y'know, it doesn't exist yet.  Anyways, the point is, seeing Julianne Moore with grey/white hair was surprising.

=  The song Katniss sings was nice enough, but I liked that created a bit more variety to the music.  Which, for the most part, I like anyways.  It's a pretty nice and atmospheric score.

= There's some irony when Katniss can't do her 'rebel propaganda' films because it felt too Hollywood....  But it was a fun sub-plot for this film, this particular film, The Hunger Games: Mocking Jay - Part 1......

= Too little of Jenna Malone here

= Effie was wonderful as always! 

= So was Haymitch!

= Kudos to this Young-Adult for showing as much blood as it does.  It's not that-that much, but it does quite a bit.  But hey, this is the series that got a bunch of kids to kill each other in an arena too, so...

= For a movie about rebellion there was too little District Interaction, sights, or even POV from the Capitol at all.

= IIRC The Matrix had its last two films release within 6 months of each other....  Why is Part 2 for this taking 11 months???  I feel that's also bad for the heat of this series to maintain itself, this film was much more of a whimper than a bang to leave on a cliff hanger for.

= And on that, oh man, I have to be kind because this is a book split into two films, but it's really quiet and tame.  It's entertaining, for sure!  But it, much like Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallow before it, just don't have enough content to really fill itself out elegantly.  Is it work your time?  Yes!  Is it worth your money?  If Netflix subscription fees count.
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« Reply #3978 on: December 18, 2014, 01:45:59 PM »

Am I to understand that you said Deathly Hallows doesn't have enough content to fill itself out elegantly? If so, that's crazy talk because that book is the most satisfying conclusion to a major series that I've read. Did the movie-makers capture that magic? That's up to debate but there's certainly more than enough going on to fill up two movies.
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« Reply #3979 on: December 18, 2014, 01:52:10 PM »

Am I to understand that you said Deathly Hallows doesn't have enough content to fill itself out elegantly? If so, that's crazy talk because that book is the most satisfying conclusion to a major series that I've read. Did the movie-makers capture that magic? That's up to debate but there's certainly more than enough going on to fill up two movies.

I meant the first part of Dealthy Hallows (sorry, been a bit sick lately, and my head is full of dizziness to make proper posts).  I don't think there's much question that the first part of DH was slow, but funny enough, it would have been way over-stuffed if it wasn't two halves.  It just sucks that you do somewhat lose that 'three act structure' with these film halves it's kinda hard to help a little less "sound and fury" that the climax (ie Part 2) would have in store.
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« Reply #3980 on: December 18, 2014, 02:39:59 PM »

I hear you there but I kind of like the departure from the flow of a typical movie. Does everything need to be two parts? Hell naw.

Harry P and Katniss are doing a good job though. With the exception of the "hunks" everyone in Mockingjay gives a pretty good performance and I liked the note it ended on.


I have yet to see, for shits and giggles, the last Twilight movie. I've seen them all and loved to hate them so i'm intereted in seeing that train wreck
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« Reply #3981 on: December 18, 2014, 02:45:31 PM »

So, as I'm sure a lot of you have heard, the Interview (a movie about being sent to murder Kim Jung-Un) with Seth Rogan and James Franco just got pulled from theatres because of pressure from a few whack-jobs and assholes.  I probably would have gone to see it on Christmas had it actually come out, though I doubt it was any good.  But still, this kind of film being yanked from cinemas bothers me in some fundamental ways. 
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« Reply #3982 on: December 18, 2014, 03:49:23 PM »

So, as I'm sure a lot of you have heard, the Interview (a movie about being sent to murder Kim Jung-Un) with Seth Rogan and James Franco just got pulled from theatres because of pressure from a few whack-jobs and assholes.  I probably would have gone to see it on Christmas had it actually come out, though I doubt it was any good.  But still, this kind of film being yanked from cinemas bothers me in some fundamental ways. 
Agreed, this whole situation seems so wrong. Granted the idea of the movie itself is fucked up, but to let a bunch of nutjobs with access to the internet make lame threats and force this is ridiculous.
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« Reply #3983 on: December 18, 2014, 08:04:04 PM »

Yeah, letting the unfounded threats of some anonymous source determine what is censored in this country sets a ridiculous precedent.

I was looking forward to the movie, because I'm one of the few that enjoyed Pineapple Express. Also it has Lizzy Caplan in it and I think she's awesome and cute.
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« Reply #3984 on: December 20, 2014, 03:15:46 PM »

As much as I want to make a wisecrack about good riddance to bad comedies or something, I can totally understand why people have a problem with it in principle (unless it had been an Adam Sandler movie, in which case I would be applauding- even I have my limits).

Am I to understand that you said Deathly Hallows doesn't have enough content to fill itself out elegantly? If so, that's crazy talk because that book is the most satisfying conclusion to a major series that I've read. Did the movie-makers capture that magic? That's up to debate but there's certainly more than enough going on to fill up two movies.

The Deathly Hallows movies were so full of nothing they needed to have like half a movie filled out with a ridiculous laser battle between Harry and Voldemort as opposed to what was probably intended as a suspenseful "less is more" thing in the book.

Unlike you I didn't like the book very much though, so maybe that colors my view of the movies too.






Also I saw the last Hobbit movie.

It wasn't very good.
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« Reply #3985 on: December 20, 2014, 09:05:12 PM »

The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies -

*sighs*
These movies started out slightly above mediocre, and just got worse. This makes me sad, as I really wanted to like them. I love the world, and (some of) the characters. It's just that I didn't care one bit about any of them. It doesn't help that the story is completely devoid of emotion, and any real consequences.
The two best characters, Bilbo and Gandalf, had absolutely nothing to do here, wandering around like lost puppy dogs. It was kind of sad.
The battle, which is basically the entire movie, is way too long, and is filled with too many ridiculous moments, that are meant to stir us, but just left me wondering when it was all going to end.
They really should have just made The Hobbit one long 3 hour movie, or maybe two, with a tad bit more exposition.
These movies just dragged, with too many lengthy scenes that added nothing to the overall story.
My 13 year old son seems to have liked them quite a bit, and maybe I would have too, at his age. It's amazing what years of life and wisdom do to ones perspective and enjoyment of things like movies.
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« Reply #3986 on: December 20, 2014, 11:00:21 PM »

The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies -

*sighs*
These movies started out slightly above mediocre, and just got worse. This makes me sad, as I really wanted to like them. I love the world, and (some of) the characters. It's just that I didn't care one bit about any of them. It doesn't help that the story is completely devoid of emotion, and any real consequences.
The two best characters, Bilbo and Gandalf, had absolutely nothing to do here, wandering around like lost puppy dogs. It was kind of sad.
The battle, which is basically the entire movie, is way too long, and is filled with too many ridiculous moments, that are meant to stir us, but just left me wondering when it was all going to end.
They really should have just made The Hobbit one long 3 hour movie, or maybe two, with a tad bit more exposition.
These movies just dragged, with too many lengthy scenes that added nothing to the overall story.
My 13 year old son seems to have liked them quite a bit, and maybe I would have too, at his age. It's amazing what years of life and wisdom do to ones perspective and enjoyment of things like movies.

And that's the entire point of the Battle of the Five Armies. These two were the only ones smart enough to know to not get involved with a glorified inheritance claim. Their whole role in the battle was to sit it out and witness the one force more destructive than Smaug or any other element of their adventure while contemplating upon the petty reasons that triggered this bloodbath.

But yeah, if you weren't here to watch the millons of CGI toops have it out against each other in glorious 3D surround sound, then you were going to be disappointed since the only things BotFAs could cover was the battle against Smaug (the one that actually happens in the book), the BotFAs, Bilbo's/Gandalf's commentary on it and the aftermath/epilogue that wraps up Bilbo's adventure. There wasn't much else to the story at the point where movie 2 ended.

My biggest problem with the trilogy was that Thorin Oakshield, while the driving force of the adventure, isn't the main character of There and Back Again/The Hobbit, and the fact that the movies tries to make him into the main character over Bilbo is probably their greatest failing.
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« Reply #3987 on: December 20, 2014, 11:20:45 PM »

My biggest problem with the trilogy was that Thorin Oakshield, while the driving force of the adventure, isn't the main character of There and Back Again/The Hobbit, and the fact that the movies tries to make him into the main character over Bilbo is probably their greatest failing.

To be fair[?], I have no problem with giving Richard Armitage more screen time...  Because yum.  I MEAN, HE'S TALENTED.  Even in Dwarven outfit.

Also, not to bring up Hunger Games for nothing short of a dumb point.  But I love that the winner of the Hunger Games gets a beautiful and new and explicitly Victorian Era home (even though the Capitol is clearly capable of holograms and other cool futuristic-things).  COMPLETE WITH: BUTTER CHURNER.
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« Reply #3988 on: Today at 01:29:45 AM »

Grim summed up pretty much how I feel. I really liked AUJ myself. It wasn't great, but I liked it.
I didn't like DoS very much but it had a few cool scenes. Smaug being a video game boss was probably the worst part.
I just sat there bored for most of BotFA which was interrupted by several cringe-inducing scenes. The worst ones are undeniably the ones involving original-elf-character-do-not-steal and Legolas, who is only in these movies because he was popular. Instead of wasting time with those two yahoos and a useless Grima Wormtongue expy maybe they should've developed more than 3 of the dwarves, apparently they never cared about being especially faithful to the book anyway, so there's no need to stick with the "Dwarves are all in the background" aspect of it. Comparing how much I cared about them vs the 9 fellowship members is like night and day.

I should note I never expected these to be on the level of LotR, that's just way too hard of an act to follow. IMO the LotR films are probably the best fantasy movies that have ever been made and we're not going to have anything that good again for decades, if ever. Even with that, I felt pretty disappointed with how The Hobbit series turned out.
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« Reply #3989 on: Today at 03:05:18 AM »

Grim summed up pretty much how I feel. I really liked AUJ myself. It wasn't great, but I liked it.
I didn't like DoS very much but it had a few cool scenes. Smaug being a video game boss was probably the worst part.
I just sat there bored for most of BotFA which was interrupted by several cringe-inducing scenes. The worst ones are undeniably the ones involving original-elf-character-do-not-steal and Legolas, who is only in these movies because he was popular. Instead of wasting time with those two yahoos and a useless Grima Wormtongue expy maybe they should've developed more than 3 of the dwarves, apparently they never cared about being especially faithful to the book anyway, so there's no need to stick with the "Dwarves are all in the background" aspect of it. Comparing how much I cared about them vs the 9 fellowship members is like night and day.

I should note I never expected these to be on the level of LotR, that's just way too hard of an act to follow. IMO the LotR films are probably the best fantasy movies that have ever been made and we're not going to have anything that good again for decades, if ever. Even with that, I felt pretty disappointed with how The Hobbit series turned out.

The first movie did its part as the set up and the first half of the adventure. It stuck closest to the book and was better off for it.

The second movie started throwing in useless sideplots like the Elf couple and drew out a number of scenes for longer than they needed to (like the whitewater barreling and the entirely useless Smaug boss fight) really dragged it down. But I will give credit to the Necromancer side-quest for letting Gandalf show off for once instead of being the party's Jeigan.

Also, the Dwarves weren't completely ignored development-wise. It's just that since everything and their brother got a boat load of development apiece, the Dwarves just felt underdone by comparison since they almost never got any extra development beyond the scope of the original story (although I do recall them skipping the sleeping bog event from the later half of the adventure so some of them were losing bits of screen time). Also the Dwarves got their development during the first two movies and really only existed at this point to get mostly killed off. There was nothing left for them at this point (which is why it was so dumb to break it up into three movies).

And yeah, the LotR movies aren't going to be matched for at least a generation since they were a cinematic milestone in scope and capability. The Hobbit on the other hand was Peter Jackson going "I wanna make Lord of the Rings again." and Hollywood going "Holy shit! Peter Jackson wants to make LotR again. Quick! Hand him a blank check so that he can make infinite money again." and then Jackson looking at the check goes "Oh hey! They're letting me do whatever the fuck I want. Cool. Lets find the biggest Tolkien sperglord we can and shove everything the guy says into these movies.", and then he did.
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