Suikoden Topic

[Zendervai]

Tierkreis was good, just not up to the level of the top Suikoden games. It was better than 4 in my opinion, though.

[Cyril]

Um... I enjoyed Tierkreis?

I did too. It felt very "Suikoden" despite there being some changes to the formula and the world.  They could clean it up a bit and I think it would be just as good, if a bit different, from the older titles.  I'd personally place Tierkreis above Suikoden 4 on my "like" scale, anyway.  I do admit to some sadness as to not seeing Harmonia; I'd compare it to knowing I'm never going to see Lodis in a non-spinoff TO game.

One main problem with Tierkreis that turned people away before they gave it much of a chance was the horribly compressed audio, which (unless something really stupid happens) shouldn't be a problem in a PSP game.

[Lard]

I really hope it's not Tri-Ace, because I do not want an action RPG battle system for Suikoden.

[Ivalice Alliance]

Here is my thing, Suikoden I and II are my favorites of the series, I hated III (at first), then I fell in love with the game and done 100% in it.  I was excited to know IV was on it's way and guess what....I loved it.  Most fans of the series despise IV but it's a very good entry in the series and the fast forward feature is funny/cool.  When I heard Suikoden Tactics was on it's way it turned out better than expected. V made me think I was playing the first two again.  Tierkreis was decent.  It's my least favorite of the series but was still very fun.  I hope this entry won't disappoint.

[Themadcow]

Very mixed reception so far for the news amongst Japanese and US/European fans.

There are three main beefs with Tierkreis:

1) It abandons much/all of the world which the first 5 games created, and the fans loved.
2) It changed too many of the Suiko series staples: 6 man party, spell system, weapon upgrading, millitary battles
3) Sound and graphic quality

Assuming it takes place away from the main series storyline, and that the PSP would provide the improved sfx/gfx the creators would have to add back in at least 2 or 3 of the other main game elements in order for it to be accepted by most of the  the hard core following (in my opinion).

Still, great news in general... as long as it gets a release outside of Japan.

[Aeolus]

I've never played or care about this series but this might be good news for some of you.

Good news! They're actually making a new Suikoden!

Bad news! It's on a system that's effectively dead in the USA so they probably won't localize it! If it's some Monster Hunter clone that will, in a perverse way, be comforting, but if Konami won't bother bringing new PSP games outside of Japan then I hope they at least bring it over to the Vita.

Worse news! It's still being made by those Tri-Ace fucks. At least it doesn't look like it has anything to do with the previous games.

ADMIN HIJACKING: Nipping misinformation in the bud:

Osamu Komuta, director of Suikoden Tierkreis, is the director of Frontier Gate, but we don’t know if Tri-Ace are developing both games.

Oh wow, did I fuck that one badly or what? I guess this is what happens when one gets so disillusioned with the current industry trends that they start making the most pessimistic assumptions.

[Themadcow]

It's a fairly reasonable assumption after Konami recently announced they had disbanded Team Suikoden and brought in Tri Ace for 'RPG knowhow'.

[Maxximum]

Glad Tri-Ace aren't in charge, not really a fan of how they do their battle systems. If I had to choose an external developer for Suikoden, Id probably go for Level 5.

[Zendervai]

If Tri-Ace got Suikoden, it would probably end up something like Radiata Stories.

[Eusis]

Oh wow, did I fuck that one badly or what? I guess this is what happens when one gets so disillusioned with the current industry trends that they start making the most pessimistic assumptions.

Admittedly I'd only see that as inherently negative if they had command of the story too, but with Tierkreis's director listed there as is it couldn't have been THAT bad.

[Der Jermeister]

If Tri-Ace got Suikoden, it would probably end up something like Radiata Stories.

I actually think this would be a good thing since RS is one of my favorite RPGs of all time, fuck the haters.

[Starmongoose]

If Tri-Ace got Suikoden, it would probably end up something like Radiata Stories.

I actually think this would be a good thing since RS is one of my favorite RPGs of all time, fuck the haters.

Why do all your posts end like that? It must be a tough existence to always be fighting an invisible army.

[Annubis]

I wish tri-Ace could do something as good as Radiata again... it's been a while that all they've done is crap that disappoints me =/
(although I guess Resonance of Fate is debatable.)

[Tartarus]

If Tri-Ace got Suikoden, it would probably end up something like Radiata Stories.

I actually think this would be a good thing since RS is one of my favorite RPGs of all time, fuck the haters.

Why do all your posts end like that? It must be a tough existence to always be fighting an invisible army.

Shadow Hearts is my favourite rpg series of all time. Suikoden needs to be Shadow hearts, fuck the haters!

[Eusis]

If Tri-Ace got Suikoden, it would probably end up something like Radiata Stories.

I actually think this would be a good thing since RS is one of my favorite RPGs of all time, fuck the haters.

Why do all your posts end like that? It must be a tough existence to always be fighting an invisible army.

Actually, I've just given him a warning over it. REALLY getting tired of his posts pretty much being that or, in one instance, a racial slur.