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« Reply #315 on: October 20, 2011, 05:29:01 AM »
Yes, he left right before the release of III, but it's not like his presence is a requirement for them to make a good Suikoden game, people just want him back because that's assumedly why they never bothered touching Harmonia after III.

Given how little information it is, it's too early to judge the game of course, but to me it tells me that they don't seem to understand (or they don't care) what the fanbase of the series finds attractive about it when its this specific set of information they choose to release.

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« Reply #316 on: October 20, 2011, 06:09:37 AM »
I have a question: Is true that during the development of Suikoden III the creator of the series (don't remember the name) left the project and the franchise entirely for some problems he had with Konami in those days?

That had long been a rumor, but it turns out he had planned from the start to go freelance after 10 years, according to an interview he did in 2009.

http://www.suikosource.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=11716

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« Reply #317 on: October 20, 2011, 11:29:20 AM »
Ah, Konami. They wish their JRPGs were like everybody elses....*sigh*

Almost a funny thing to say given the overall high acclaim the 2nd and 3rd title get...

I almost feel like there is a formula for a PERFECT rpg in the Suikoden universe and gameplay style -- but they're good at mucking it up, or at the very least, putting 70% into what they do than the full 100.

At least they aren't taking the Idea Factory/Compile Heart route of jamming as much moe as possible into a game.

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« Reply #318 on: October 20, 2011, 12:09:12 PM »
Tierkreis was still a decent game despite all the changes and grumblings, so I'm just going to be happy that there's a new Suikoden game coming out.  Now I just need to hope we actually get it in English somewhere.

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« Reply #319 on: October 20, 2011, 03:32:32 PM »
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Konami is bringing the Suikoden series back with a brand new game. Genso Suikoden: The Woven Web of a Century takes place in a world where a monster rises every one hundred years and destroys the world. A young lad, sent 100 years from the future by the mysterious Zephon, is given the task to defeat him.

Famitsu magazine revealed both of the hero’s parents are deceased and he is a swordsman from the village of Terube. Jino, his hotheaded childhood friend made the journey through time too. When Myra, Jino’s older sister, isn’t scolding him, she’s the group’s magician. Dukas is a loyal soldier and another one of the game’s main characters.

While Genso Suikoden: Woven Web of a Century is a single player game, Famitsu notes the title has unspecified wireless LAN features.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/10/19/every-hundred-years-a-monster-rends-the-world-in-psp-suikoden/

OK, That setting does sound pretty awful. Lets see how they go about presenting it. If executed well, even the most cliche setups can turn out well. Still, and I know Im repeating myself here, it does sound pretty awful...
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« Reply #320 on: October 20, 2011, 03:37:28 PM »
My eyes glazed over reading that. It sounds so, so, so very dull.

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« Reply #321 on: October 20, 2011, 03:55:12 PM »
My eyes glazed over reading that. It sounds so, so, so very dull.

It sounds like that Cliched RPG we designed a few months ago.I call shenanigans.

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« Reply #322 on: October 21, 2011, 05:02:13 AM »
Fingers crossed that there's actually some shades of grey to this story because 'kill evil monster' is proper rubbish.

Now, if there was a good reason why this creature is smashing up the world every 100 years (for some kind of ecosystem balance, or to stop a greater devestation happening) then great... but for now it's not looking good.

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« Reply #323 on: October 21, 2011, 05:22:04 AM »
Really, I think it's already at somewhat of a disadvantage, because when you consider how the fantasy elements were used in other Suikoden games (Aside from Tierkreis), they were pretty much always driving forces for the actions of the human conflicts which took center stage, or they were simply used as tools. Here, the fantasy element is just a big bad guy and a ticking clock for the heroes to beat.

The less this creature has to do with the story, the better...but then if that was the case they wouldn't have it in there at all. Bleh.

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« Reply #324 on: December 26, 2011, 01:19:46 PM »
Bamping this with some new footage featuring gameplay. http://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/25/first-look-at-suikodens-new-battle-system/

Didn't show too much with the gameplay (not enough to determine how much of the old continuity's gameplay they're keeping). But what they did show though looked painfully anime (oh hey there generic regenerating space monsters, you look as boring to fight as you are fucking everywhere).
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« Reply #325 on: December 26, 2011, 03:30:04 PM »
The premise seems interesting but it's just not Suikoden. It's pisses me off they're slapping the name onto this for a few extra sales.
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« Reply #326 on: December 26, 2011, 03:46:00 PM »
It looks like a solid game but I have to agree that it looks very un-Suikoden. Tierkreis still had the elements of what made Suikoden good (well, mostly), but this whole "space monsters from the future" or whatever is not Suikoden at all.

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« Reply #327 on: December 27, 2011, 03:42:03 PM »
It actually looks real promising to me :)

Suikoden has only failed in one respect for me, and that is simply that not every game could be Suikoden 1 or 2-hahhahaha

I love anime, I love Suikoden..... I imagine I'll probably be able to forgive em for a space-monster or two if the title is as solid as its predecessors, story and style departure aside.....

Truth is I like seeing new and innovative growth in franchises.... I personally believe Final Fantasy has left us all "afraid of what could happen next" with some of our favorite series.... well for me it was Final Fantasy, Secret of Mana and Breath of Fire that made me fearful for the "future" of my favorites...
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« Reply #328 on: December 27, 2011, 03:49:30 PM »
They replaced the epic orchestrated openings with jPop. They removed the "shades of grey" political story in a fantasy setting and slapped on a generic anime monster, and yet when I watched the trailer I actually caught myself thinking "maybe I should get a PSP". Just because it looks like a turn based jRPG with Suikoden elements...That's just sad and shows how much I miss the old style of jRPG games.
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« Reply #329 on: December 28, 2011, 10:34:40 AM »
Losing my interest in this game quickly.