Suikoden Topic

[kyuusei]

The Atlus fans who pay any sort of attention to their product would have realized during the first string of hints Gungnir was also a strong possibility, if not both games. In fact, many of them seemed to realize one or the other possibilities early on.

Even still, the fans had no bloody excuse or even time to get upset. Why? Because the day of the reveal, hell even a couple hours later, they started up the NEXT teaser e-mails. Which started with a G...

[Ashtrot]

Sorry, but with the very real possibility of this next Suikoden not being localized (and me not really minding that), I don't understand how a group of people who (purportedly) like having fun can find fault with a game company having fun with revealing anticipated games.

If you ask me they're just a bunch of whiners who didn't get the exact announcement they wanted at exactly the time they wanted.

[VampiricDragon_]

they didnt take it as having fun  based on what and how it was happening based off years of growlanser neglect

[Ashtrot]

This is why they are the most humorless people I've ever seen.

[Eusis]

BOOM Gungir. Your telling me you wouldnt a  little upset?

Speaking as someone who followed and even participated some in the reactions to those hints, and wanted Growlanser more... I knew all along it was likely Gungnir or both, because given the hints AND publishing history there was no way Gungnir would be skipped. Fleeting disappointment in that window between Gungnir's reveal and the next hint was worth it just to watch Atlus's mindscrew, and I expected something similar anyway (announce Gungnir, nonchalantly reveal Growlanser IV the next day). Atlus always likes to have fun with their announcements, only the most bitter or humorless of fans can be resentful over this in the end.

Anyways, this has nothing to do with Suikoden and everything to do with the Atlus game announcement thread, so if this MUST continue (and it's probably better it doesn't honestly) take it there.

[VampiricDragon_]

My only point was fan reaction is insane and generally has little influence on companies..............I will continue this in the ff thread for a reason

[Eusis]

I will continue this in the ff thread for a reason

But I didn't say drag other threads down with this!

[VampiricDragon_]

forget the whole thing

[Aeolus]

forget the whole thing

We would but you keep posting.

[VampiricDragon_]

lol Im off that topic now

[Dice]

lol Im off that topic now

lol!

[Ashtrot]

So I got the latest Suikoden. I"m five hours in and it's not looking good. The music is forgettable, the characters are boring, and the story is ridiculous thus far. I suppose there's the possibility it'll pick up if I play some more, but it's really annoying. The graphics are okay, but it seems like unite attacks are nowhere to be seen; the closest I've seen is having 'linked' partners do a normal attack at the same time.

If you're wondering what the story is about, it's basically a 'every 100 years a special form of monster comes to wreak havoc, this time someone is trying to control them.' There's a plot device called the Dynasty Tree that allows the characters to go 100 years to the past, but it has to be the worst plot device ever. As an example, there's this cutscene depicting the death of an important character early in the story. The characters then use the Dynasty Tree to travel to the past to cause a series of events that prevent said character from dying. Five minutes later the character is alive again. WTF? Any and all plot coherence is thrown out the window.

[Aeolus]

So it's a Suikoden game trying to be Chrono Trigger but made by Konami and Tri-Ace who are less like the Dream Team and more like the NY Mets. I mean with the combined brain powers behind MGS and SO you're basically guaranteed total plot incoherency from the start.

Also the multiple characters pulling off normal attacks at the same time was something both of the PSX games pulled regularly with no real fanfare involved; and then there were unite attacks and combination rune spells in addition to that.

[KC_MCDOHL]

Anyway, the fact of the matter is Konami are in no position to tackle a main series Suikoden at this present moment in time so the fact that they are 'saving it for a better day' shows they still have respect for the series.

If they can't tackle a "main series" Suikoden, why make this one? That makes no sense.

Because Konami are not in a financial position to make a main title Suikoden. Their only hope at present is to make these cheap spin offs and hope to generate enough cash to keep the series alive. The series has never been in the best position and certainly isnt these days. I still say we support this new game, however, by buying it (if released over here of course). Good sales may very well be what gets us a Suikoden VI someday. However, I strongly suggest we make our feelings known to Konami about the future of the Suikoden series.

[Aeolus]

Anyway, the fact of the matter is Konami are in no position to tackle a main series Suikoden at this present moment in time so the fact that they are 'saving it for a better day' shows they still have respect for the series.

If they can't tackle a "main series" Suikoden, why make this one? That makes no sense.

Because Konami are not in a financial position to make a main title Suikoden. Their only hope at present is to make these cheap spin offs and hope to generate enough cash to keep the series alive. The series has never been in the best position and certainly isnt these days. I still say we support this new game, however, by buying it (if released over here of course). Good sales may very well be what gets us a Suikoden VI someday. However, I strongly suggest we make our feelings known to Konami about the future of the Suikoden series.

Love Plus says otherwise.