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« Reply #510 on: September 30, 2014, 06:16:47 PM »

Steam is adding Canadian dollar currency (and thus regional pricing) October 7th.
Enjoy getting screwed like on consoles.
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« Reply #511 on: September 30, 2014, 10:10:10 PM »

Just another reason to avoid it.

I would expect next gen style price gouging hikes.
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« Reply #512 on: October 02, 2014, 07:26:52 AM »

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With lingerie and everything, the alt. costumes lack any sense of style to get bothered with the fanservice IMO.
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« Reply #513 on: October 06, 2014, 10:45:38 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0zJF3KAI3w

Watching this and I'm thinking, Minecraft was probably indie game's greatest success stories and at the same time it's come pretty damn close to killing it.

Here's what I'm thinking about the economic reality of early access.
You make a game and it get 50000 sales.
You partially make a game, release that with the promise to continue developing it, and the early access version gets 50000 sales, with the same unit cost,  but that's it.
same amount of money but if you finish the game first, you can look at that as money made, whereas in the latter case it's like, development funds.

It's a model that worked very well for minecraft because minecraft made a ridiculous amount of money and, early on at least, would've had EXTREMELY low development costs.

Also feel like Minecraft getting successful coincided with a lot of drama cropping up in the indie scene cause I guess getting big begets that.

But yeah, this is why I didn't get Broken Age.
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« Reply #514 on: October 15, 2014, 05:38:30 PM »

Bayonetta 2's "Over-Sexualization" Complaint: A Perfect Example of What's Wrong with Modern Reviews -- DualShockers
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« Reply #515 on: October 15, 2014, 05:49:53 PM »


I already spent two fun days on Neogaf disagreeing with the premise of that article, so I'm just gonna sum up real quick here again: I disagree.

But I doubt what I think matters, BECAUSE YAY BOOBIES AND BUTT

I will leave IGN's take on that which I think works both sides of that well and concisely:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-gXfamSPf0#t=325
"Bayonetta is strong and awesome, but it looks like the game was shot by a pervy cameraman [sic]"

Besides that, I still fully intend to purchase.
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« Reply #516 on: October 15, 2014, 06:02:15 PM »


I already spent two fun days on Neogaf disagreeing with the premise of that article, so I'm just gonna sum up real quick here again: I disagree.

But I doubt what I think matters, BECAUSE YAY BOOBIES AND BUTT

I will leave IGN's take on that which I think works both sides of that well and concisely:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-gXfamSPf0#t=325
"Bayonetta is strong and awesome, but it looks like the game was shot by a pervy cameraman [sic]"

Besides that, I still fully intend to purchase.

Doesn't buying a game you object to on a personal level make you a bit complicit in the act?

It'd be like disagreeing with the killing of animals while chomping on delicious beef jerky.

Or (and I don't want to sound facetious) do you just not care enough about it to sway you away from buying?
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« Reply #517 on: October 15, 2014, 06:06:14 PM »

But I doubt what I think matters, BECAUSE YAY BOOBIES AND BUTT

I do enjoy my boobies and butts... but I will fight to the death so that you may get to enjoy some men-boobies (or chesticles if you prefer) and men-butts too!

(it's true that that ass camera shot in the video is kind of too much and pointless...)
 
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« Reply #518 on: October 15, 2014, 06:16:23 PM »


I already spent two fun days on Neogaf disagreeing with the premise of that article, so I'm just gonna sum up real quick here again: I disagree.

But I doubt what I think matters, BECAUSE YAY BOOBIES AND BUTT

I will leave IGN's take on that which I think works both sides of that well and concisely:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-gXfamSPf0#t=325
"Bayonetta is strong and awesome, but it looks like the game was shot by a pervy cameraman [sic]"

Besides that, I still fully intend to purchase.

Doesn't buying a game you object to on a personal level make you a bit complicit in the act?

It'd be like disagreeing with the killing of animals while chomping on delicious beef jerky.

Or (and I don't want to sound facetious) do you just not care enough about it to sway you away from buying?

I think Bayonetta is an awesome series, the gameplay is fun as hell.  It doesn't mean half the cutscenes don't make my eyes roll at some point.  And unlike eating beef or other moral issues, no nothing is really harmed in this nor is it endangering the world (I think :P).

I like she's a badass, but I hate people saying she's empowering for women when I think that's *really* open for debate (and while I do think it's a grey area, some part of it's good and bad, I definitely lean more to one side).

Also, the aspect that a factor in Polygon's lower review is being criticized is dumb.  The Polygon reviewer stated that they love the gameplay, but like many reviews, it's not JUST gameplay that will always make a title earn a high score.  Games get docked for shitty voice acting, poor music, bad visuals and so forth, so why not something that is both consistent and [deemed] tacky that's getting in the way of the person's overall experience?  

But I doubt what I think matters, BECAUSE YAY BOOBIES AND BUTT

I do enjoy my boobies and butts... but I will fight to the death so that you may get to enjoy some men-boobies (or chesticles if you prefer) and men-butts too!

(it's true that that ass camera shot in the video is kind of too much and pointless...)
 

I'm all in favour of 'man-service' as well.  Everyone can win!  But since that's rarely the case.... *shrug*

I KNOW Bayonetta is sexy (or meant to be anyways; she's definitely a "snoo-snoo Amazoness" by proportion).  I hardly think a "pervy cameraman" needs to show off even more.
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« Reply #519 on: October 15, 2014, 06:34:55 PM »

I will leave IGN's take on that which I think works both sides of that well and concisely:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-gXfamSPf0#t=325
"Bayonetta is strong and awesome, but it looks like the game was shot by a pervy cameraman [sic]"

I understand the logic he's following by saying that. But as someone who grew up with lots of Japanese games and anime, that argument doesn't work for me at all.

Sex appeal in many forms in Japanese media is something that is not even a problem, the problem mainly comes from either cultural differences or a lack from someone to make the effort to view things in a open-minded manner.

Then again, a few that has complained about Bayonetta in the past do it out of the insecurities each of those people have/had at the time. Which, at the end of the day, ends up in a discussion where there's much ado about nothing and Bayo keeps being as sexy and fun as it has ever been.

Games get docked for shitty voice acting, poor music, bad visuals and so forth, so why not something that is both consistent and [deemed] tacky that's getting in the way of the person's overall experience?

Read the article that I linked from DualShockers please.
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« Reply #520 on: October 15, 2014, 06:37:59 PM »

No offense, but skimming through that article...I feel like it's a better example of what's wrong with gaming journalistic writing than the Polygon review. And yes, I read the Polygon review. I didn't agree with it and it was painful to read at times, since it didn't seem to want to give a lot of examples as to what it was saying, so it was difficult to understand their position. It's not a good review, and I've seen better, even from Polygon, even on ones I very much did not agree with.

But that articles feels a bit too charged to take seriously, like someone's just posting an sternly-worded letter. Granted, it's difficult enough for a member of the industry to say "everyone's doing it wrong!" and still be taken seriously...

I will leave IGN's take on that which I think works both sides of that well and concisely:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-gXfamSPf0#t=325
"Bayonetta is strong and awesome, but it looks like the game was shot by a pervy cameraman [sic]"

Besides that, I still fully intend to purchase.

Damnit IGN, how can I hate you went you actually make good points?! :P

But seriously, I think that sums it up just right. I want to agree with the idea that it's part of her character and she "owns" her sexuality or whatever. I guess I'd have to play the game more, but what I couldn't help but be distracted by the buttshots in the cutscenes of the demo, though. I don't think there were too many, and I don't think it's that much of a problem - I love Bayonetta as a character, and that includes her looks - but if the full game has a lot of that (and I've heard conflcting reports), I could see some people getting annoyed or even offended by it.
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« Reply #521 on: October 15, 2014, 06:55:49 PM »

I will leave IGN's take on that which I think works both sides of that well and concisely:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-gXfamSPf0#t=325
"Bayonetta is strong and awesome, but it looks like the game was shot by a pervy cameraman [sic]"

I understand the logic he's following by saying that. But as someone who grew up with lots of Japanese games and anime, that argument doesn't work for me at all.

Sex appeal in many forms in Japanese media is something that is not even a problem, the problem mainly comes from either cultural differences or a lack from someone to make the effort to view things in a open-minded manner.

Then again, a few that has complained about Bayonetta in the past do it out of the insecurities each of those people have/had at the time. Which, at the end of the day, ends up in a discussion where there's much ado about nothing and Bayo keeps being as sexy and fun as it has ever been.

Not everyone watches anime and not everyone grows up on the same cultural influences.  I'm not sure what part of T&A is about open-mindedness when taste and tastefulness (especially when it comes to sexualization) is a very difficult thing to nail down, and again, not so black and white to simply tell people that "oh well you should be open-minded about it!".  Plus, it's one thing to say 'sex appeal' (of which Bayonetta is dripping in) and another in creating a voyeuristic camera (the first shot of the demo goes from Bayo's chest-gem to her box).  The point is that this IS nuanced and can't be talked about so matter-of-factly; people have dissenting opinions and beliefs.  And if this is a game that was always meant for Stateside release (where it may be more contentious to show off such blatant/obvious sexual tones), then such discussion may inevitably happen.

I don't think one bad review is going to kill the game, nor do I think it "THE BIG PROBLEM WITH MODERN REVIEWS".  It's one different opinion; not the final word against it.

I don't get what you mean by "insecurities".

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Games get docked for shitty voice acting, poor music, bad visuals and so forth, so why not something that is both consistent and [deemed] tacky that's getting in the way of the person's overall experience?

Read the article that I linked from DualShockers please.

I did, but what specifically about it?  

No offense, but skimming through that article...I feel like it's a better example of what's wrong with gaming journalistic writing than the Polygon review. [....]
But that articles feels a bit too charged to take seriously, like someone's just posting an sternly-worded letter. Granted, it's difficult enough for a member of the industry to say "everyone's doing it wrong!" and still be taken seriously...

That was more my impression as well.  

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. I guess I'd have to play the game more, but what I couldn't help but be distracted by the buttshots in the cutscenes of the demo, though. I don't think there were too many, and I don't think it's that much of a problem - I love Bayonetta as a character, and that includes her looks - but if the full game has a lot of that (and I've heard conflcting reports), I could see some people getting annoyed or even offended by it.

I *hated* the start of the demo for the obvious pandering, but when it died down and resumed to be about a sexy heroine kicking ass I was totally into it.
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« Reply #522 on: October 15, 2014, 10:33:25 PM »

@Dice: Cool that you have personal emotions about this but discussing this any longer is big waste of time when a few have gone and said what it needed to be said in other places. I find it so boring to try to follow this when it has happened so many times before.

Is like I said, much ado about nothing and Bayo 2 is stil one of the best releases of this year. A year that has been slow but not bad at all overall.
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« Reply #523 on: October 20, 2014, 04:49:15 PM »

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/9814-Its-Okay-To-Like-Or-Not-Like-Bayonetta

Topic says it very well.  And he's right; you can like Bayonetta or not, she's a figure definitely worth the debate -- in the end the game at its core is a ton of fun at the very least with a lead that kicks a [mega]ton of butt.
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« Reply #524 on: October 23, 2014, 03:09:17 PM »

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