Man, after reading the past few pages on peoples opinions on the various games in the series they have played...I have realized I must just have really low standards..or don't really analyze the games I am playing when I do play them. Its usually either I like it, or I don't I never really put thought into it beyond that :P. And so far every Tales game i've played (starting with Destiny which im sure wouldnt hold up if I played it again, but which I loved back when I first played it, which was a little after FF8 came out.) I have really enjoyed. I will say Vesperia for me was the best, I enjoyed the characters and world the most. The other games I maybe had a few nitpicks over, but yeah lol. I will probably be getting the HD collection simply because Ive never played either game, and ToS is considered a favorite among a few good friends of mine. Plus I kinda wanna see what is so terrible about 2.