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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #795 on: July 05, 2013, 07:03:47 PM »
They're also not usually all that good for how much time is put into them. Mind you it's not as bad as a machine translation or something, but it seems like most amateur translators have a great grasp of Japanese > English translation, but not so much a grasp on English grammar.

No matter; Dejap's Tales of Phantasia translation is *totally* the superior fan translation even compared to the official one. x)



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Some people argue that they took too many liberties with the script, but sometimes, between a terrible well translated joke or a new joke with liberties that's actually funny... you're better with the later.

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Heck, I'm actually going to go deeper in my argument here.
Having done translation once, I can fully understand what went through their minds.

Take this example: http://www.flickr.com/photos/14011431@N04/2705889296/in/set-72157603569309062
The original text was about 2 JAPANESE books with different styles that are in JAPANESE only and the only reason JAPANESE people read these books is that most school make students read them.

I could have translated this faithfully... but that would just be a big wtfnofunny.
So I took liberties. I considered that I am reaching to an English speaking audience around the world who's only common point is that they played Persona 3. From there, I valued that the most common trait would be to play jRPGs. Among jRPGs, most people know at least a bit about FFVIII and FFX. So, instead of Japanese books, it's now about FFVIII and FFX.

The raw essence of the joke is about the same, but now people can actually A) understand it B) think it's slightly funny.

On the other hand... this one I'm ashamed of: http://www.flickr.com/photos/14011431@N04/1480093758/in/set-72157603569309062

That one is just impossible to localize well and it just sucks... I ended up putting an explanation page after explaining who that guy is and that he does flower arrangement. Not funny at all.

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And then there's this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/14011431@N04/2584684870/in/set-72157603569309062
That's another one that was untranslatable and I just went f-it... I'm making a Tsukihime joke here because it just fits so well.
It has nothing at all to do with the initial joke, but this one at least can potentially be pretty funny.

So, ahoy to Arche and nuptial tiger-like behaviours.[/size]

I like this post and all therein.  I prefer and admire when dubbers/translators cater to the audience they're referring to, even if (unfortnately or not) it's authentic to the original.  So kudos there (what else have you translated???).

Also, speak of the devil sorta, rumor of a re-dub and re-translation for Symphonia are buzzing the net.  It's [allegedly] still in the talks, but I guess it would make sense given the amount of extra content, the ownership of the original translation, and the sticky issue between ToS1 and ToS2's voice cast.

...of course, Tales fans have again shit their pants over the matter (in shock or just generally being aghast to the idea).

EDIT, 'NOTHER RUMOR: Xill likely for Day 1 digital
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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #796 on: July 06, 2013, 08:03:00 AM »
They're also not usually all that good for how much time is put into them. Mind you it's not as bad as a machine translation or something, but it seems like most amateur translators have a great grasp of Japanese > English translation, but not so much a grasp on English grammar.
Well the thing about the Tales of Vesperia fan translation is.....apparently the 360 English files are on the disk, so they just have to translate the new content (or at least I recall hearing that a year or two ago). Further they are apparently checking over their translations like three times.....hence why it is taking forever as the initial translation has been done for like a year or two now. Honestly at this point I would be perfectly fine if they didn't do so much check over because I just want to play the game at this point. x_x

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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #797 on: July 06, 2013, 11:19:28 AM »

...Aaaaand there it is.

EDIT: Please don't do that.

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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #798 on: July 06, 2013, 01:14:45 PM »


The cuteness is too much.... these must be on my shelf....maybe two sets, one for shelf at home and one for the tattoo room-LoL
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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #799 on: July 06, 2013, 01:37:23 PM »
^ There's also the "secret" Leon figure.
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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #800 on: July 06, 2013, 01:53:41 PM »
Wow. I can't believe I just read that spoiler. I misinterpreted it as you making some kind of joke based on my headline.

Even under a spoiler tag, why would you post that? :(
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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #801 on: July 06, 2013, 01:59:04 PM »
Huh, what could be so bad a spoiler tag couldn't be enough? Were you posting porn again, Dice?

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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #802 on: July 06, 2013, 02:02:32 PM »
It was an ending spoiler for ToX2. The first game isn't even out here and it was labeled as "RPGFan spoilerz for newz," so I thought it was a joke. I'm at fault for reading it, but I wanted to spare others from accidentally looking at it too.
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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #803 on: July 06, 2013, 02:06:25 PM »
Actually, I read it too and ended up getting spoiled. At the very least, I think a more clear "yo dawg ToX2 spoilers!" would have been good. When it just said "RPGFan News Spoilers" I was like "oh hey, I read RPGFan News!"
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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #804 on: July 06, 2013, 02:10:21 PM »
Heh, I did like the edit, but I'm really, really sorry, I had no intention to be misleading, I'm really embarrassed right now.
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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #805 on: July 06, 2013, 02:12:30 PM »
Hey, if it was an innocent mistake, then no harm done. Well, I mean... I'm kinda bummed, but I certainly can't hold it against you. Haha. :)
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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #806 on: July 06, 2013, 02:18:22 PM »
Man, how good would it be if that Men in Black thingy existed and we could wipe our memories of stuff like this.

Well, best I can do is this frying pan. C'mere, it'll only hurt for a minute.

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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #807 on: July 06, 2013, 02:19:57 PM »
Again, sorry... I've been "around" information for the game for too much and too long (hell, Xill1 is two years old already).  If anything though, I'm really happy about this news, especially after the 4 year Tales drought we went through that finally ended a year ago with Graces.  But also, while Xill1 was decent enough, it was far from my favorite from what I played, but the second game is (unanimously, form what I've heard on most fronts) a far superior title -- which makes me happy because I get giddy anytime I hear a sequel outrank its predecessor.

Man, how good would it be if that Men in Black thingy existed and we could wipe our memories of stuff like this.

Well, best I can do is this frying pan. C'mere, it'll only hurt for a minute.

I think about that all the time.
But I also think it exists in some form: After studying for a test, I feel like I remember nothing the next day.
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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #808 on: July 06, 2013, 02:21:24 PM »
This is why I reveal those spoiler boxes one word at a time. Got to "At the end" and immediately stopped.
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Re: Tales of PlayStation(s) revealed
« Reply #809 on: July 06, 2013, 02:23:52 PM »
This is why I reveal those spoiler boxes one word at a time. Got to "At the end" and immediately stopped.

Oh, that's a good idea. I feel dumb not doing that now.