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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2010, 04:26:49 PM »

Because RPGfans have terrible taste.
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2010, 05:03:24 PM »

Just making a point about the fanboy/girl type fanbase.  Like many people are soured on Final Fantasy VII because of the fanbase.  It's a fine game and you like it, but the fanbase makes you groan, sigh, or facepalm.
You are reminding me about why I hate general fan-bases (or I guess fan-boys would be a more appropriate term). Instances when people would dislike something like say, Catherine, because it isn't a Persona 5, or a new SMT main-series installment on PS3. Or people letting nostalgia cloud judgement (or objectivity) on why they think a newer installment of a series is so much worse than an older installment, with some whack-fucking-ass reasoning. There's so many recent examples I could use, but I'm going to get a headache thinking about it, so I won't. :P
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2010, 05:26:58 PM »

I'll compare the Metascores of games I've chosen like this (review score|user score and then AVG. score):-

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Nocturne: 82|93 = 87.5
Persona 4: 90|92 = 91
Demon's Souls: 89|90 = 89.5
Persona 3 FES: 89|81 = 85
Final Fantasy X: 92:86 = 89
Baldur's Gate II: 95|93 = 94
Valkyria Chronicles: 86|89 = 87.5
Lost Odyssey: 78|84 = 81
Dragon Quest VIII: 89|85 = 87
Deus Ex: 90|96 = 93

Which makes Persona 4 the best JRPG of the decade and Baldur's Gate II the best WRPG of the decade from a universal meta-score standpoint. And since people in this forum are more JRPG fans than WRPG fans, I think we need to see Persona mentioned at least a few times. And I've seen a lot of people mention Persona in their posts.

Thus, from this simple research, I've concluded that the majority of RPGfans DO have a good taste in RPGs. (well, me at least). HAHAHAHA case closed.
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2010, 07:17:22 PM »

Planescape Torment averages at 94.5

owned BG2 and every JRPG ever
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2010, 07:48:06 PM »

firefly was good dollhouse not so much. actually i've never seen firefly but i liked the movie serenity. also keep in mind i dont think any current gaming publication caters the to the hardcore rpg playing crowd. on a side note i recent aquired copies of legend of dragoon and xenogears. once i got the timing down i started to like LoD a lot but xenogears not so much. the on foot combat in xenogears seems fun but its been a while since i had any of that.....i accidently typed xenosaga about 5 times >_<
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2010, 08:23:38 PM »

Planescape Torment averages at 94.5

owned BG2 and every JRPG ever

As well it should.  Planescape: Torment is at the top of my 'best games of all time' list.  But the previous list was of games from this decade.

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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2010, 08:36:20 PM »

If Planescape: Torment was a viable choice, I'd definitely mention it. That game's story was excellent, but Baldur's Gate II pretty much owns it gameplay-wise.
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2010, 08:46:30 PM »

Hmm Planescape and Mass Effect 2 barely missing the decade..

I think this decade has been set up!
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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2010, 09:53:49 PM »

In the "Best RPGs of the decade" thread a lot of people are listing some really obscure titles. A lot of the games on these lists have really bad review scores from the more mainsteam sections of the gaming press. Why is it that someone mentions Lunar 2, or Legend of Dragoon and then I go to Gamespot or Gamerankings and find out that the game has a 7.0 or worse?

Lunar 2 has a 82.79% average on Gamerankings for the remake and a 90.6% average for the Sega CD version so it hardly did badly with the critics.
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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2010, 10:01:09 PM »

Hmm Planescape and Mass Effect 2 barely missing the decade..

I think this decade has been set up!

If Planescape had been just released 3 weeks later, it would have gotten multiple votes on the RPGFan top 20 of the decade list (it came out on 12/12/1999).  I probably would have put it at the top of my list, and I think at least one other person would have done likewise.
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« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2010, 10:36:22 PM »

Yes, we do not insult Whedon on RPGFan...that is a big no, no.  That Twilight comparison is so off, it's not even funny.  

Meh.l To be fair, however, I haven't read Twilight, so I can't really compare them.

However I stand by my other comments. :P
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« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2010, 11:44:40 PM »

Yes, we do not insult Whedon on RPGFan...that is a big no, no.  That Twilight comparison is so off, it's not even funny.  

Meh.l To be fair, however, I haven't read Twilight, so I can't really compare them.

However I stand by my other comments. :P

You could at least explain your reasoning in detail instead of just saying that one of the most beloved cult Sci-fi shows sucks.
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« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2010, 11:57:34 PM »

Buffy and Angel rank as my favorite shows. But, gotta be fair, before he got his own show and manned up Angel pretty much invented the sparkly vampire.
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« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2010, 12:05:01 AM »

Buffy and Angel rank as my favorite shows. But, gotta be fair, before he got his own show and manned up Angel pretty much invented the sparkly vampire.

I can't think of any specific examples, but I know you can go way, way earlier than the late 90s. Hell, Symphony of the Night came out in Japan just ten days after Buffy started in America if Wikipedia and Gamefaqs are to be believed.
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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2010, 12:14:11 AM »

Sparkling vampires (OK, not literally sparkling, but that style of vampire story) are practically an entire subgenre of shoujo manga.  Honestly, when I originally heard of Twilight my first thought was that it sounded like an American take the standard shoujo manga formula.

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