I don't even want to reply to half of that. And you and your exes, dude, get your shit together and fight them back if they're such jerks to you (or better yet, ignore them 100% and stop using them as an argument for why women are heartless monsters against poor men -- I'm going there -- women have their own slew of issues when they're raped and we have a court system that's fucking clueless at the best of times to both sexes and against many problems; men certainly have the problem where their rape is treated as a non-issue, and women may face more lasting problems with STDs or an unwanted pregnancy). Gender aside, NO ONE SHOULD PUT UP WITH ANY HARASSMENT; I don't care if you're a man, a woman, or hell, even puppies and kitties -- No one! But the fact you're telling women to stop vocalizing their issues (especially while arguing how men have them too) is pure crap and it's just mean.
I never said anything about women. I was talking about feminism. The two are not the same. I'm for equal rights and I dislike feminism because it actively fights against that. I respect people who fight for equal rights. I don't respect feminism as a movement. Most women think my problems, and the problems many people who are not women, face are important. Feminism doesn't. That's all there is to it. This would be less of a problem if society were willing to say "yeah, both sexes have their problems so we should approach all of them individually," but feminism has bullied most of society into ignoring half of the population. If you want to argue that feminism did good stuff in the past (which it has - but it was an era where we weren't even born and modern feminists weren't either), so we should respect whatever form it takes now as a matter of principle, then I could just as easily turn that argument around and say that all Asians should hate white people because they were sent to concentration camps 70 years ago.
Feminism attempts at being strong for ITS side. (as implied by the movement name). It's BECAUSE men have the upper crust and we have to fight to get up there. Even in women-dominated fields, men tend to rise up faster and earn more than women do... great
. It's fine to say 'equality' and 'feminist' movements are not the same thing, but still, "men's right movements" exist just as well at disrupting that balance of "equality". And if "equality movements" work, then sometimes it may mean helping women because of their lack of representation. Also nothing here is making the wage gap a thing of the past or women, or having less child-rearing responsibilities, or being in charge of unequal amounts of [unpaid] housework, or their wider representation in traditional feminine roles or PT/contract work. So no, feminism still needs to exist on some level because we don't have equality in social ways that also matter. Rights are one thing, and a big damn thing, but it's not all of the problem.
Also, has feminism bullied any worse than men conditioning women to stay at home as house-keepers in the early to mid-twentieth century?
Hell, how am I supposed to feel when I read this?: http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/14/will-we-ever-see-a-shin-megami-tensei-game-with-a-female-lead/http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/188775/You_cant_have_a_female_character_in_games.php
Also, if you think that my problems could've been solved by punching out my exes, I have to wonder if you live in a parallel dimension where the police and court system is not biased heavily against men in cases like mine. You really need to look up the Duluth model. I'm not even sure you're aware how much trouble I could've gotten into if I defended myself. Again, women was not the cause of my suffering. Feminism definitely was.
The Duluth Model is stupid and has its fair share of critics. And neither man or woman should mentally (or physically) damage another; but I feel people make break ups too hard (another issue). I'm sorry if you read physical/mental abuse from my comment all I meant was to just tell them:Roses are red.
Violet are blue.
Garbage is dumped.
AND SO ARE YOU!! *door slam*
I definitely believe there's a problem, and then there's how you treat a problem with your own disposition, actions, and attitude.
Wage gap stuffThere's no base wage gap as far as I'm concerned, but there is some truth to the work representation argument IMO (but then nobody ever asks why there aren't more women in construction work or oil rigs). In any case, I'm not saying there aren't inequities that women face, but that feminists are focusing on those to the detriment of all other problems, or creating monsters where there aren't instead of focusing on larger inequities within society. If feminists are all about "equality" why have they not ever campaigned once for issues that affect men and in fact have actively campaigned for legislation and activism that hurts men?
Then why post about "debunking the wage gap"? Your point about women focusing on women's problems than "other problems" is especially vague; and again, in the event of unequal representation of a sex, why would women lobby for men when they're on top? I've not really heard the argument "We need more women than
men in this office" as much as "we need more women" in general.
It IS fair to say then yes, while women are raped, so are men. But the numbers of who perpetrates rape and who initiates more violent encounters are the problem. Men and women's issues are important, but you have to ask why are one gender much more represented as victims and the other gender as offenders? If anything it's important to crack down on that
Again, women are still barely in any proportion of management positions as well and work shittier jobs on average (if you hadn't guessed which aspect of "feminism" I support and fight most fervently for: Read sentence again). Your arguments just don't make sense insofar they're just as good at ignoring women's issues as you are at purporting men's for theirs, but instead accuse
feminists doing the same for their cause. If you're going to say, "what about men's issues?" it's just as easy to turn that around and say "well how about women's?". Furthermore, to say that feminism has "accomplished its goals" and then make a comment about constantly changing dictionary definitions -- then perhaps feminism has taken on a new meaning.
But with only touching the surface of the water here, rights for women around the world are certainly more varied and while they're sometimes better (Europe cares a lot more for family-related policies and childcare than NA), but also sometimes much worse
. Feminists are necessary especially in other parts of the world. I'm sure you'd agree, and some country's fights are far from over.
And thanks Google Dictionary for the definition on a 'rapist'. At least I cited the "more reputable" and task-oriented Merriam Webster dictionary definition than relying on a search engine to do that for me.The point is that dictionary definitions, even by 'reputed' dictionaries can be disingenuous. The definition of communism on Meriam Webster also states that communism is a system where property is publicly shared and available to all as needed. However, modern definition of communism is basically thinly-veiled totalitarianism.
(Merriam Webster, by the way, states "an INDIVIDUAL who rapes").
Dictionary definitions really do not do a good job in describing social issues because they change with the times.
Aw boo-hiss. The definition still applies to what I'm talking about in the "now". And if definitions are so contentious then why do we even discuss things at all if everything's meaning can become dubiously based on alternate definitions or extenuating meanings. Rape is rape; unwanted physical and sexual penetration at the most basic level. Indeed, feminism has changed with time, but the core meaning surrounds the idea of "equality for women" -- at the very least, pulling THEM up to the ledge due to the unfair societal balance.
But ok, I'll bite. Women and men are
Then how can we and why aren't we doing as well as men in the work force and how can that change?
Also; PS... How am I supposed to react on a message forum about "My gf thinks feminism is stupid"? You didn't think that was a "smart" comment to make here
, did you (we've had a few squabbles about this)? I realize I'm sort of in the lion's den here, I don't expect support, but you often make these ...sort of odd
...women-comments that crawl under my skin.
But aw well. lol! What a kidder; she's a keeper! :S
My haps: I'm drawing shizz.