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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19815 on: October 07, 2017, 12:29:16 PM »
150 for xrays and prep
475 for anesthetic, additional 475 for sedation (it's highly recommended)
About 350-550 per tooth removed, and I'm opting to get all 4 out, but 2 are really messed up. I'm just gonna safely assume 500 for each, so 2k for the lot.

So in reality it's probably gonna end up closer to 3300.

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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19816 on: October 07, 2017, 01:46:40 PM »
Oh yeah, in the US they tend to go all out with the fun stuff, don't they? Over here they just stick to local anesthetic unless you're deadly afraid of the dentist. The pain isn't actually all that bad once your mouth is numb. In my case it didn't even hurt until the anesthetic wore off hours later. There's just awkward pulling and drilling and stuff. If anything, the part I hated the most was the blood. Pro-tip: put a towel over your pillow when you go to bed. Bloody drool is hard to get out of pillows.

Oh, and stock up on easy to eat foods. My tooth was in a really awkward spot and was removed with more force than my poor jaw would've liked, and it took me over a week to start eating somewhat solid foods again.

Edit: just looked it up: the total costs for the removal of that tooth were 287,30, which included x-rays and ten days worth of pain medication. (Could have saved on that last part, because the pain meds turned out to be 600mg ibuprofen. I could have just bought storebrand 300mg ones and saved like 20 on the pills and service fee.)
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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19817 on: October 07, 2017, 02:57:18 PM »
plus the whole "please think for me" mentality I'm seeing is grinding my gears more than it ever has. 

I have the opposite problem with people. I constantly encounter what I call the "Let me Google that for you" attitude where it's taboo to ask questions anymore because people just want you to look it up on the Internet. And yet these people are missing out on interesting perspectives, asides, anecdotes, and trivia by not asking real people questions.

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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19818 on: October 08, 2017, 08:03:00 AM »
I recommend sedation for wisdom teeth removal. I got all four removed at once and was sedated. Didn't feel a thing until a week later when my meds ran out.

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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19819 on: October 08, 2017, 08:14:53 AM »
I'd maybe not be terrified of the dentist every time I go if if EU dentists offered sedation as an option.


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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19820 on: October 08, 2017, 09:24:49 AM »
I had the option of sedation during the removal of all four wisdom teeth, but the surgeon didn't think it was really necessary, and I turned it down.  The local anaesthetic worked out just fine, and the experience was more tedious than anything else.
The pain isn't actually all that bad once your mouth is numb. In my case it didn't even hurt until the anesthetic wore off hours later. There's just awkward pulling and drilling and stuff. If anything, the part I hated the most was the blood.
^Much like that.  I really don't like the smell or taste of blood.

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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19821 on: October 08, 2017, 11:53:36 AM »
Maybe it's a cultural difference? I read the removal of wisdom teeth is like an industry of its own in the US. There is a lot of money to be made, so dentists and surgeons go all out and that has become the norm. Same with prescription painkillers.

Over here the aim is to be efficient. They don't recommend removing wisdom teeth unless they pose some sort of risk. And when you do need to get it done, it's under local anesthetics. Anything more is seen as an unneccesary risk and inconvenience.

I'd maybe not be terrified of the dentist every time I go if if EU dentists offered sedation as an option.

Some dentists specialise in treating people who are afraid of the dentist and they do have sedation on the menu (for severe cases).


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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19822 on: October 08, 2017, 09:57:35 PM »
Maybe it's a cultural difference? I read the removal of wisdom teeth is like an industry of its own in the US. There is a lot of money to be made, so dentists and surgeons go all out and that has become the norm. Same with prescription painkillers.

Over here the aim is to be efficient. They don't recommend removing wisdom teeth unless they pose some sort of risk. And when you do need to get it done, it's under local anesthetics. Anything more is seen as an unneccesary risk and inconvenience.
Eh, seems to me like you are just increasing the odds of having mishaps if you are breaking up teeth in a person's gums and they are still cognizant enough to flinch or react to the sounds they are hearing. Just seems like you are asking for the patient to fuck the procedure up accidently.

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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19823 on: October 09, 2017, 03:14:50 AM »
Eh, seems to me like you are just increasing the odds of having mishaps if you are breaking up teeth in a person's gums and they are still cognizant enough to flinch or react to the sounds they are hearing. Just seems like you are asking for the patient to fuck the procedure up accidently.

But is that something that actually happens? I mean, it's not like wisdom teeth removal isn't a common surgical procedure over here and I've never heard of it going wrong like that. The sounds aren't any worse than what you hear when you get a cavity taken care of at the dentist.

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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19824 on: October 09, 2017, 05:50:42 AM »
Aren't we all so paralyzed with fear of something going wrong that we are gripping the armrests of the chair with sweaty palms so far you lose feeling in our fingers so it's actually not possible for us to move and fuck it up? Or is that just me.


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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19825 on: October 09, 2017, 06:47:20 AM »
But is that something that actually happens? I mean, it's not like wisdom teeth removal isn't a common surgical procedure over here and I've never heard of it going wrong like that. The sounds aren't any worse than what you hear when you get a cavity taken care of at the dentist.
I dunno. It probably depends on how bad the teeth are coming in. And possibly also the patient. I mean I was under local anesthetic (enough to keep my lower lip pretty much paralyzed for 8+ hours) and general anesthetic and I vaguely recall the sensation of my teeth being broken up despite being "asleep." Especially on the right side since I am 90% sure they missed the tooth once during the procedure.

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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19826 on: October 09, 2017, 07:43:32 AM »
Well, yeah, you feel something (the pulling and the pushing), but it doesn't actually hurt. In my case the surgeon trying to get mine out literally said: "Oh... that didn't go quite as planned", but it's not as if you feel the difference. Oh, and don't worry. He quickly explained the tooth just didn't break the way he had wanted it to. Nothing bad. The main downside was that he had to use more force to get it out, leading to that stiff jaw and the whole 'I can't open my mouth far enough to actually put food in there' thing.

Aren't we all so paralyzed with fear of something going wrong that we are gripping the armrests of the chair with sweaty palms so far you lose feeling in our fingers so it's actually not possible for us to move and fuck it up? Or is that just me.

Erh... that's bad. Any idea why you feel that way? :(

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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19827 on: October 09, 2017, 10:23:02 AM »
but it does me no good to cry about it.

That's not true!  A good cry can help you process emotions and move on, rather than choking on them.  My wife does this all the time: stuff the bad emotions down, stuff them down, ignore them!  And then they explode.  I saw her doing it last night and was like "Ok, time for emotion stretches, follow me!"  And I grabbed her hands and made her flail them around and roll her head around yelling and grunting like a baby.  She cried and groaned and then she started laughing and was no longer paralyzed by her sadness.

So find a good opportunity to let that stuff out, dude. :)
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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19828 on: October 09, 2017, 12:09:19 PM »
Well, yeah, you feel something (the pulling and the pushing), but it doesn't actually hurt. In my case the surgeon trying to get mine out literally said: "Oh... that didn't go quite as planned", but it's not as if you feel the difference. Oh, and don't worry. He quickly explained the tooth just didn't break the way he had wanted it to. Nothing bad. The main downside was that he had to use more force to get it out, leading to that stiff jaw and the whole 'I can't open my mouth far enough to actually put food in there' thing.

Aren't we all so paralyzed with fear of something going wrong that we are gripping the armrests of the chair with sweaty palms so far you lose feeling in our fingers so it's actually not possible for us to move and fuck it up? Or is that just me.

Erh... that's bad. Any idea why you feel that way? :(

People coming at my teeth with drills is honestly nightmare material for me. I still go to the dentist, but every time it's an anxiety ridden affair and I don't sleep the night before. I guess it's a phobia.


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Re: Whats the haps?
« Reply #19829 on: October 09, 2017, 01:10:19 PM »

People coming at my teeth with drills is honestly nightmare material for me. I still go to the dentist, but every time it's an anxiety ridden affair and I don't sleep the night before. I guess it's a phobia.

That sucks. In my case it's the social aspect of it that can keep me up at night. For instance, I barely remember the people who work at the dentist's office, but they all seem to know my name and talk to me as if I see them several times a month. Not to mention that they sometimes try to engage in conversation while their hands I dunno how many tools are in my mouth. Really, what do they expect?

Hospitals are worse, because I usually have no idea what to expect (and I'm terrible at unexpected social interactions). The people who work there are either professionally indifferent or caring to the point it hurts. The first time I gave blood, the nurses and other volunteers kept bringing me tea and other things to drink. They kept saying it's important to stay hydrated and I had a hard time saying no because they kept insisting and I ended up drinking something like 1,5l in less than an hour. Not to mention the waiting room... Some people become really talktive while waiting, and I get it, for some it's a way to deal with stress, others (especially the elderly) are lonely and see a chance to get some attention, but... please leave me alone!