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« Reply #60 on: November 27, 2010, 05:17:28 PM »

I think we can agree that at least we all like RPGs

Shut it, blasphemer.

If anyone is a blasphemer here, it is you!

EDIT: Also known as the "I know you are, but what am I" argument.
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« Reply #61 on: November 27, 2010, 05:34:02 PM »

Before you start hurling accusations like that across the internet, you should know one thing:

I'm rubber and you're glue,
whatever you say bounces off me
and sticks to you.

Incidentally, this also counts as my poem for this post.
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« Reply #62 on: November 27, 2010, 05:42:33 PM »

As the initial requester of poetry, I feel like I should be posting some. :P

When I heard the Learn'd Astronomer- Walt Whitman

When I heard the learn’d astronomer;   
When the proofs, the figures, were ranged in columns before me;   
When I was shown the charts and the diagrams, to add, divide, and measure them;   
When I, sitting, heard the astronomer, where he lectured with much applause in the lecture-room,   
How soon, unaccountable, I became tired and sick;        
Till rising and gliding out, I wander’d off by myself,   
In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time,   
Look’d up in perfect silence at the stars.
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« Reply #63 on: November 27, 2010, 09:39:28 PM »

Astronomers fucking love stars and shit. Whitman was a bitch
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« Reply #64 on: November 27, 2010, 10:46:59 PM »

He's also the most influential American poet.
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« Reply #65 on: November 28, 2010, 01:29:19 AM »

Astronomers fucking love stars and shit. Whitman was a bitch

Walt Whitman could beat you with both dicks tied behind his back.
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« Reply #66 on: November 28, 2010, 02:08:33 AM »

lol American Poetry

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« Reply #67 on: November 28, 2010, 02:52:10 PM »

Astronomers fucking love stars and shit. Whitman was a bitch

Walt Whitman could beat you with both dicks tied behind his back.

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« Reply #68 on: November 28, 2010, 09:37:09 PM »

I'm an athiest for a lot of reasons, but I wasn't always so. I used to believe, quite devoutly, in Christian teachings, afterlife, etc. In fact, I was probably a lot like Alexander, getting a white-washed, Methodist version of the religion that was basically, "Jesus loves you, be happy". Eventually, however, I really examined religion in general, and the monotheistic ones in particular, and gleaned the exact opposite viewpoint. I realized that if there was a God in the sense that the Bible/Torah/Koran lays Him out (created mankind, wants our praise and subservience) than I wouldn't want to live in a world where that was true. I wouldn't want an afterlife of eternal peace and tranquility, and I certainly wouldn't want to live via the grace of anyone, let alone an omnipotent, omnipresent being. I want to carve out my own life with my own hands, to the best of my ability. I'll be kind because I want to be kind, and because it benefits me and those I care about. I'll make my fortune or sow the seeds of my downfall by my own hands, not by the will of a benevolent or vengeful deity. And if, when I die, there's someone or something waiting to pass judgment on me, then I have one thing to say:

Melius est in inferno quam regulam in coelo servire
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« Reply #69 on: November 28, 2010, 11:20:05 PM »

Thanks for sharing that Sensei, hopefully we can recover from this umm... tangent.  If not, it's been a great thread.  I'm pleased. :)

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I heard and my inward parts trembled, at the sound my lips quivered. Decay enters my bones, and in my place I tremble. Because I must wait quietly for the day of distress, for the people to arise who will invade us.
Though the fig tree should not blossom and there be no fruit on the vines, though the yield of the olive should fail and the fields produce no food, though the flock should be cut off from the fold and there be no cattle in the stalls,
yet I will exult in the LORD, I will rejoice in the God of my salvation.
The Lord GOD is my strength, and He has made my feet like hinds' feet, and makes me walk on my high places.
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« Reply #70 on: November 28, 2010, 11:52:08 PM »

I think people who don't believe in god are more rational while people who do are more emotional.
Not saying one is dumber than the other. Just saying one requires proof of concepts while the other one can believe.

If there is a god, I'm not really scared. Even if I didn't believe in him, I've been nice to others and a great fella. No way he'd toss me in hell just for one little flaw. At worst I'll just take a snooze in the purgatorium for a bit.
Funny thing is, when I was young, school had Christian classes... so everyone knows the base of it. I'm somewhat glad they don't do that brainwashing anymore.
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« Reply #71 on: November 29, 2010, 12:53:55 AM »

If there is a god, I'm not really scared. Even if I didn't believe in him, I've been nice to others and a great fella. No way he'd toss me in hell just for one little flaw. At worst I'll just take a snooze in the purgatorium for a bit.

Why do you think that though?  Jesus set the bar impossibly high.  According to Him I already committed 13 acts of murder and 22 counts of adultery just on the way home from picking up some Slim-Jims.

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When you plunged
The light of Tuscany wavered
And swung through the pool
From top to bottom.

I loved your wet head and smashing crawl,
Your fine swimmer's back and shoulders
Surfacing and surfacing again
This year and every year since.

I sat dry-throated on the warm stones.
You were beyond me.
The mellowed clarities, the grape-deep air
Thinned and disappointed.

Thank God for the slow loadening,
When I hold you now
We are close and deep
As the atmosphere on water.

My two hands are plumbed water.
You are my palpable, lithe
Otter of memory
In the pool of the moment,

Turning to swim on your back,
Each silent, thigh-shaking kick
Re-tilting the light,
Heaving the cool at your neck.

And suddenly you're out,
Back again, intent as ever,
Heavy and frisky in your freshened pelt,
Printing the stones.
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« Reply #72 on: November 29, 2010, 12:59:54 AM »

Well, God is supposed to be about forgiveness, not total douchebaggery =/
and if he IS that horrible a being, I'll be glad I never gave him any worship.
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« Reply #73 on: November 29, 2010, 01:00:59 AM »

"Earth has only existed 6000 years"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M
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« Reply #74 on: November 29, 2010, 01:02:11 AM »

Funny thing is, when I was young, school had Christian classes... so everyone knows the base of it. I'm somewhat glad they don't do that brainwashing anymore.

Word. When I was in primary school, our Islamic studies teacher really drilled stuff into our head-- and she implied all sorts of shit like how people who spoke English were Christians or devils (as an English speaker, I didn't come off very well in her class obviously). The problem with classroom teaching is that sometimes the teachers can't help but insert their own views; they fail to realize the flexibility of the religious experience and let personal biases get in the way. But I suppose that has been the way of the world for many years, though: people using something as powerful as faith for their own personal means.

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Trees (Joyce Kilmer)

I think that I shall never see   
A poem lovely as a tree.   

A tree whose hungry mouth is prest   
Against the sweet earth's flowing breast;   
A tree that looks at God all day,           
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;   
A tree that may in summer wear   
A nest of robins in her hair;   
Upon whose bosom snow has lain;   
Who intimately lives with rain.     
  
Poems are made by fools like me,   
But only God can make a tree.
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