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« Reply #735 on: March 15, 2012, 01:10:08 PM »

My point rxactly draak. A 17 year old game had more story content and didn't need all the fancy dlc. Granted...it wasn't an option but still. It's like companies just decided that because the option is viable, they have to use it now, and since it takes more time to make content after the game is done they should get more money.
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« Reply #736 on: March 15, 2012, 01:13:26 PM »

Well... they are in it to make money, and DLC is a proven winner for bottom lines. As much complaining folks do about it, it gets purchased in huge quantities.

Not saying I disagree with you in any way, just that DLC is not going away anytime soon. The audience has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt it will pay for it - unless that changed in a huge way, I expect the trend will be far MORE DLC, not less.
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« Reply #737 on: March 15, 2012, 01:25:55 PM »

Now we know how multiplayer was introduced to ME3.

Don't have a problem with that really, in a sense it's just bundling a separate game for free with one I would've gotten anyway. Don't like how they DID add an additional ending scene for those who played co-op extensively though, but the scene's minor and it's more a problem out of principle (don't say we can get everything single player only to hide it requires NG+ to do so... And that it goes beyond how much you could fill up the bar that IMPLIES you're good to go for seeing everything.)
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« Reply #738 on: March 15, 2012, 09:00:32 PM »

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Cosmic energies have more than just those attributes though, some are harmless or have no effect on organic physiology but can fry electronics, while others just blow stuff up. I assume the type of energy wave caused is tuned by the Crucible itself which can cause the network to do one of multiple things.

Like I said, conceptually sound but the execution was shitty as hell. I'm more disappointed that BioWare tore attention away from the philosophical and artistic implications of the final reveal and choice by including a crappily-executed ending than I am with the ending itself. It's not the ending I would've written, but it IS very thought provoking if you get past the stupid color explosions bullshit.

Also on the FTL thing: this is true, but like I said, there's no telling that they can't rebuild stuff on both ends fast enough to get some people out of the Sol system. There are multiple ways for the fleets to not have to stay in the Sol system.


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Its established however that no ship has the fuel capacity to go beyond two systems. As well, Helium-5 is rare enough that less than 30% of the galaxy could be traversed by all the races combined given the fuel supply. The estimate by ME standards is that it would take several thousand years to construct enough fuel yards and refine enough helium-5 (if at all possible) to cover the galaxy. It would reduce Salarian society to rubble just by the loss of infrastructure, and the Quarians would be wholly unable to sustain their diaspora, considering how many we're probably on pilgrimage during those events.

In short: ME violates it's own rules with its ending if we want it to make sense.
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« Reply #739 on: March 16, 2012, 05:27:21 AM »

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« Reply #740 on: March 16, 2012, 06:45:06 AM »

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Cosmic energies have more than just those attributes though, some are harmless or have no effect on organic physiology but can fry electronics, while others just blow stuff up. I assume the type of energy wave caused is tuned by the Crucible itself which can cause the network to do one of multiple things.

Like I said, conceptually sound but the execution was shitty as hell. I'm more disappointed that BioWare tore attention away from the philosophical and artistic implications of the final reveal and choice by including a crappily-executed ending than I am with the ending itself. It's not the ending I would've written, but it IS very thought provoking if you get past the stupid color explosions bullshit.

Also on the FTL thing: this is true, but like I said, there's no telling that they can't rebuild stuff on both ends fast enough to get some people out of the Sol system. There are multiple ways for the fleets to not have to stay in the Sol system.


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Its established however that no ship has the fuel capacity to go beyond two systems. As well, Helium-5 is rare enough that less than 30% of the galaxy could be traversed by all the races combined given the fuel supply. The estimate by ME standards is that it would take several thousand years to construct enough fuel yards and refine enough helium-5 (if at all possible) to cover the galaxy. It would reduce Salarian society to rubble just by the loss of infrastructure, and the Quarians would be wholly unable to sustain their diaspora, considering how many we're probably on pilgrimage during those events.

In short: ME violates it's own rules with its ending if we want it to make sense.

I agree.
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« Reply #741 on: March 16, 2012, 08:10:00 AM »

So having not played ME2 or ME3 (didn't like the first, so I don't plan on it), what's the deal with trolling some ME fans by comparing it to Gurren Lagann? (the rest of seem to think this is awesome or do not care)
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« Reply #742 on: March 16, 2012, 08:36:46 AM »

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the motivation of the Reapers makes them like a retarded version of the Anti-Spirals. Anti-Spirals sought to eliminate and/or oppress spiral lifeforms so they don't grow to the point of invoking the spiral nemesis and imploding the universe. The Reapers keep wiping out organic races and turning at least some of them into Reapers... to prevent them from creating an advanced synthetic race that would eliminate all organic life period. It'd make more sense if it WERE closer to the Anti-Spirals, that they keep wiping out advanced races so as to keep them from completely dominating the galaxy, draining resources, and prohibiting other races from ever rising. You actually see some examples where they could already be cemented as a valid reason, the Krogan reproduce/mature quickly, live extraordinarily long lives, and are absurdly resilient so they seriously could've dominated the galaxy had it not been for the genophage, and you also had the Protheans who we discover subjected and enslaved other races all the time, allowing no one else to reach their heights unless they successfully rebelled and overthrew them.
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« Reply #743 on: March 16, 2012, 02:48:43 PM »

Considering the alternative, there are worse things to be compared to than Gurren Lagann. Like Evangelion. At least Gurren Lagann is badass, Evangelion is an insult.
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« Reply #744 on: March 16, 2012, 03:23:00 PM »

So hey, when would be a good time for us all to get on for multiplayer? I'm about to take care of some errands, but after that I believe I'm free, though I'm waiting for a few buds to reply to a movie invite. Saturday is open for me too, so I'll be bouncing around between mass effect and killing jihl nabaat in ffxiii-2 for the day.

Eagerly awaiting putting down some enemy forces with my level 19 soldier.
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« Reply #745 on: March 16, 2012, 03:28:53 PM »

This weekend is good.  Everyone play silver or higher vs Reapers.  CHANCE FOR AWESOME STUFF.
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« Reply #746 on: March 16, 2012, 03:31:02 PM »

I'm down for this weekend myself. My Krogan demands blood.
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« Reply #747 on: March 16, 2012, 03:43:54 PM »

Glad I chose laundry and grocery shopping today then.
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« Reply #748 on: March 16, 2012, 04:59:22 PM »

This weekend works for me! Sorry I didn't get back to anyone last night, I was in a full lobby with friends all night. Got my human vanguard to level 14 though and galactic readiness to 84%, successful night. Still haven't unlocked any other races.
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« Reply #749 on: March 16, 2012, 05:04:40 PM »

See, I'm half (HALF) tempted to nab some xbl points for the from ashes dlc and the blow the rest on spectre packs to up my multiplayer stuff. I only played mp for like a day and a half, and haven't really gotten much done for it.
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