Mass Effect 3 (expect spoilers for the entire series)

[Draak]

I think donating money as a show of discontent (?) is vastly different and a better use of said money then paying a game developer and publisher more money for content that could have been put in the actual game before release. I don't like how companies seem to use it as an excuse to leave content out and sell it later. Chrono trigger didn't have parts left out, ffvii didn't leave out a any of its sidequests, Tales of symphonia didn't cut content out(well at least in the u.s.). All these games had long stories too, easily trumping mass effect 3's main story in terms of length. Yes, quality vs quantity, mass effect wins (at least til the ending heh heh), but I didn't see a petition for a re-written ending for Chrono Trigger, did any anyone else?

CT has 10+ different endings, and some even have minor variations.

A game from '95.

[Agent D.]

My point rxactly draak. A 17 year old game had more story content and didn't need all the fancy dlc. Granted...it wasn't an option but still. It's like companies just decided that because the option is viable, they have to use it now, and since it takes more time to make content after the game is done they should get more money.

[dyeager]

Well... they are in it to make money, and DLC is a proven winner for bottom lines. As much complaining folks do about it, it gets purchased in huge quantities.

Not saying I disagree with you in any way, just that DLC is not going away anytime soon. The audience has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt it will pay for it - unless that changed in a huge way, I expect the trend will be far MORE DLC, not less.

[Eusis]

Now we know how multiplayer was introduced to ME3.

Don't have a problem with that really, in a sense it's just bundling a separate game for free with one I would've gotten anyway. Don't like how they DID add an additional ending scene for those who played co-op extensively though, but the scene's minor and it's more a problem out of principle (don't say we can get everything single player only to hide it requires NG+ to do so... And that it goes beyond how much you could fill up the bar that IMPLIES you're good to go for seeing everything.)

[Hidoshi]

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Cosmic energies have more than just those attributes though, some are harmless or have no effect on organic physiology but can fry electronics, while others just blow stuff up. I assume the type of energy wave caused is tuned by the Crucible itself which can cause the network to do one of multiple things.

Like I said, conceptually sound but the execution was shitty as hell. I'm more disappointed that BioWare tore attention away from the philosophical and artistic implications of the final reveal and choice by including a crappily-executed ending than I am with the ending itself. It's not the ending I would've written, but it IS very thought provoking if you get past the stupid color explosions bullshit.

Also on the FTL thing: this is true, but like I said, there's no telling that they can't rebuild stuff on both ends fast enough to get some people out of the Sol system. There are multiple ways for the fleets to not have to stay in the Sol system.

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Its established however that no ship has the fuel capacity to go beyond two systems. As well, Helium-5 is rare enough that less than 30% of the galaxy could be traversed by all the races combined given the fuel supply. The estimate by ME standards is that it would take several thousand years to construct enough fuel yards and refine enough helium-5 (if at all possible) to cover the galaxy. It would reduce Salarian society to rubble just by the loss of infrastructure, and the Quarians would be wholly unable to sustain their diaspora, considering how many we're probably on pilgrimage during those events.

In short: ME violates it's own rules with its ending if we want it to make sense.

[Ashtrot]

[Taelus]

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Cosmic energies have more than just those attributes though, some are harmless or have no effect on organic physiology but can fry electronics, while others just blow stuff up. I assume the type of energy wave caused is tuned by the Crucible itself which can cause the network to do one of multiple things.

Like I said, conceptually sound but the execution was shitty as hell. I'm more disappointed that BioWare tore attention away from the philosophical and artistic implications of the final reveal and choice by including a crappily-executed ending than I am with the ending itself. It's not the ending I would've written, but it IS very thought provoking if you get past the stupid color explosions bullshit.

Also on the FTL thing: this is true, but like I said, there's no telling that they can't rebuild stuff on both ends fast enough to get some people out of the Sol system. There are multiple ways for the fleets to not have to stay in the Sol system.

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Its established however that no ship has the fuel capacity to go beyond two systems. As well, Helium-5 is rare enough that less than 30% of the galaxy could be traversed by all the races combined given the fuel supply. The estimate by ME standards is that it would take several thousand years to construct enough fuel yards and refine enough helium-5 (if at all possible) to cover the galaxy. It would reduce Salarian society to rubble just by the loss of infrastructure, and the Quarians would be wholly unable to sustain their diaspora, considering how many we're probably on pilgrimage during those events.

In short: ME violates it's own rules with its ending if we want it to make sense.

I agree.

[PotRoast]

So having not played ME2 or ME3 (didn't like the first, so I don't plan on it), what's the deal with trolling some ME fans by comparing it to Gurren Lagann? (the rest of seem to think this is awesome or do not care)

[Eusis]

Because

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the motivation of the Reapers makes them like a retarded version of the Anti-Spirals. Anti-Spirals sought to eliminate and/or oppress spiral lifeforms so they don't grow to the point of invoking the spiral nemesis and imploding the universe. The Reapers keep wiping out organic races and turning at least some of them into Reapers... to prevent them from creating an advanced synthetic race that would eliminate all organic life period. It'd make more sense if it WERE closer to the Anti-Spirals, that they keep wiping out advanced races so as to keep them from completely dominating the galaxy, draining resources, and prohibiting other races from ever rising. You actually see some examples where they could already be cemented as a valid reason, the Krogan reproduce/mature quickly, live extraordinarily long lives, and are absurdly resilient so they seriously could've dominated the galaxy had it not been for the genophage, and you also had the Protheans who we discover subjected and enslaved other races all the time, allowing no one else to reach their heights unless they successfully rebelled and overthrew them.

[Ashtrot]

Considering the alternative, there are worse things to be compared to than Gurren Lagann. Like Evangelion. At least Gurren Lagann is badass, Evangelion is an insult.

[Agent D.]

So hey, when would be a good time for us all to get on for multiplayer? I'm about to take care of some errands, but after that I believe I'm free, though I'm waiting for a few buds to reply to a movie invite. Saturday is open for me too, so I'll be bouncing around between mass effect and killing jihl nabaat in ffxiii-2 for the day.

Eagerly awaiting putting down some enemy forces with my level 19 soldier.

[John]

This weekend is good.  Everyone play silver or higher vs Reapers.  CHANCE FOR AWESOME STUFF.

[Ashtrot]

I'm down for this weekend myself. My Krogan demands blood.

[Agent D.]

Glad I chose laundry and grocery shopping today then.

[kyuusei]

This weekend works for me! Sorry I didn't get back to anyone last night, I was in a full lobby with friends all night. Got my human vanguard to level 14 though and galactic readiness to 84%, successful night. Still haven't unlocked any other races.