Dark Souls

[Eusis]

Wouldn't you guys want less grinding and tedium in a game like this? Or does grinding count as difficulty in Dark Souls?

You guys just told me that Dark Souls is more of a strategy game where the main difficulty is figuring out enemy attacks and how to counter them, yet people are complaining about the action? Why don't they play the far more difficult more action oriented games like the ones I just mentioned? Or any of the far more difficult games in this list? There are lots and lots of challenging games out there.. both in terms of strategy, and in terms of action. I dunno, the whole thing is confusing to me.

There's nothing wrong with an easy mode so more players can enjoy the game's content. Gating players out of large amounts of content for the sake of elitist egos is pointless and bad for business. Hard modes exist for players like that.

1. You don't really NEED to grind souls out in Dark Souls except in maybe a few situations like getting cursed early on. Some of us want that edge, but shortly after release people had figured out Soul Level 1 speed runs, and so long as you don't keep dying and losing your souls before spending them (which you shouldn't after boss fights at least) you'd likely gain enough for a reasonably skilled solo run without going out of your way.

2. I outlined why the gameplay is very different. It'd be similar to suggesting someone play a hard strategy RPG instead of something like Vagrant Story, when they're only vaguely similar at best. It's really best you try for yourself really.

3. A problem with adding an easy mode IS the nature of online. People put down summon signs to help with bosses, or invade others games, and if the balance is different in a significant way it's not particularly fair to have them playing together. It's already fragmented enough by the divisions by Soul Level and to a lesser degree covenants, what'd probably be a better idea is do something similar to FE's no death option in newer games: have an option you choose at the start of a cycle for whether you want the death penalty to still apply or not. In that case I don't think there's be significant unbalancing for multiplayer (most of which would be naturally fixed by different soul levels anyway), and a simple change like that probably would make the game feel much easier.

[Fadedsun]

I don't ever remember grinding for souls in Dark Souls, but I definitely grinded for materials to build better weapons.

[Eusis]

Most of the time it was because I wanted to hit some goal, IE wielding a weapon one handed (or at all). And it's actually not really a good idea to grind for souls THAT much before NG+ just because of how much more lucrative it is after your first game clear. And you can't really complain too much about grinding for something that's optional, nevermind that not only is it still not really needed but would go by WAY faster until you hit levels you don't need to reach anyway.

[DPB]

I'm up to the PtD Edition areas now, these are some great boss fights. The two that I've fought have been very fast and aggressive (little time for Estus chugging here), but by no means cheap and certainly not easy, I died to the second many times. These are hard but fair fights, unlike Four Kings (where it's nearly impossible to judge distance) and Centipede Demon (where the camera is completely broken).

[Yggdrasil]

Dark Souls issue
Smartass Dark Souls players
Dark Souls player BS
Dark Souls playthrough (DPSGaming) pt36

[beLIEve?]

Dark Souls issue
Smartass Dark Souls players
Dark Souls player BS
Dark Souls playthrough (DPSGaming) pt36

those first three vids are so funny, i almost think they are trolls though cause it's hard for me to accept that people are that dumb. i think the only system i think is obtuse in the game is how is weapon upgrades, one would think that a +10 sword is better than a +5 sword but that's not really the case in the souls games.

[Yggdrasil]

"The new and additional Dark Souls: Artorias of the Abyss content will be released on Xbox Live and PSN on 24th October, Namco Bananas has said. That same DLC will be bundled with the Prepare to Die Edition of Dark Souls, which arrives two days later for PS3 and Xbox 360 on 26th October." -- Source: Eurogamer

*jokeaboutbananas*

[Fadedsun]

"The new and additional Dark Souls: Artorias of the Abyss content will be released on Xbox Live and PSN on 24th October, Namco Bananas has said. That same DLC will be bundled with the Prepare to Die Edition of Dark Souls, which arrives two days later for PS3 and Xbox 360 on 26th October." -- Source: Eurogamer

*jokeaboutbananas*

Namco Bananas? Why? Am I not getting something or this just a really stupid mistake?

[Yggdrasil]

It might be a mistake but Namco is bananas for finally bringing the DLC to consoles. :P

Also, how are the players in the PC version? I read on gaf that there are a lot of cheaters.

[Cyril]

Yes, I've found cheaters to be quite common outside of devoted fightclubs and duels (Red Eye Stone).  It's even easier to cheat on the PC version than it was to BB/Dragon head glitch on consoles.

On the plus side, they did balance out PvP a bit (ie, no more DWGR >50 flipping, elemental weapon nerfs), so builds tend to be more varied.

[Yggdrasil]

Dark Souls Version 1.06 Update:

PVE Changes

・Increased enemy HP
・New Crystal Golem In Dukes Archives Drops Only Blue Titanite Chunk
・"YOU DEFEATED"

Specific Gear Changes

・Dark Wood Grain Ring effect nerfed; Now activates at 25% equip load and below rather than 50
・Hornet Ring critical increase nerfed from 50% to 30%
・Pinwheel Masks nerfed
・Rapier and Spear weapon turtling takes more stamina
・Two-handed Greatsword R1 swing speed is slower. One-handed swing speed remains unchanged
・Elite Knight set fixed; Its poise is now 46 in the NA versions
・Eagle Shield damage reduction is now 95%

Item changes

・Bottomless Box glitch fixed
・Dragon Head Stone glitch fixed

Online Changes

・Miracle resonance signs now appear correctly (PS3)

Source: Dark Souls Wiki

[Lard]

Did this get re-released on consoles as the "Prepare to Die" edition or was it only on PC?

[Eusis]

Did this get re-released on consoles as the "Prepare to Die" edition or was it only on PC?

It's supposed to get that re-release later, but I can't recall the situation for NA.

[Lard]

I believe I saw it in Japan, I think that's why I got confused.

Thanks.

[TiamatNM]

I'm playing this now, luckily I was at a good spot to jump to the DLC cause hydra was dead and I was at the lordvessel part.  just had to save dusk and get the broken pendant

beat the first two bosses.  greatsword is slow >_>  I beat artorias only using the roll stab after many attempts