I'm not saying where I'd stick my thumbs and how far I'd stick em.
Games: Near the end of Arkham City. This was kind of a letdown compared to Asylum. Asylum was a nice and tight narrative but still allowed for great optional exploration. In City, sure the city looks great when you're flying around, but get on the ground or or some of the rooftops and things are messy. Plus I just look around and it's nothing but fucking riddler question marks all over. Crazy traps, balloons, etc. It just seems messier and just lame. Plus the main quest is boring and unfathomable. Mr. Freeze is working with you. Then he tries to kill you. Then you're rescuing his popscicle wife like nothing happened. Eh.
I was blown away by Asylum, this one is fun only for the combat really. The boss battles have been shit so far too.