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« on: March 29, 2011, 02:08:22 PM »

note:the link i was given to this story was on a nsfw site so i'll copy and paste it in a quote.

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Top manga publisher Shogakukan has banned almost all online fan activity pertaining to its works, most notably any form of artwork or doujinshi based on its characters.

The directives, published on their homepage and picked up on with concern by Hayate no Gotoku mangaka Kenjiro Hata:

    Shogakukan forbids the following unauthorised usages of our publications on the Internet or intranets:

    Posting pictures, in whole or in part, of the binding or pages of our publications.

    Posting the contents or tables of contents of our publications.

    Posting plot summaries or derivative stories and similar based on our publications.

    Posting pictures or photographs, in whole or in part, of our characters.

    Posting your own pictures (illustrations or parodies, etc.) of our characters.

    Modifying our characters (including your own images) or publications for use in software, icons, wallpapers. etc.

    Posting the contents of the Shogakukan homepage (pictures, data, or source) in whole or in part.

    The above acts, whether commercial or non-commercial in character, are acts of copyright infringement. Those who do not respect these guidelines may find themselves subject to legal action, so please be warned.



This explicitly bans everything from fan art to wallpapers and even anime-themed avatars, and also apparently bans most Internet discussion, wiki coverage and reviews of Shogakukan works.


some of it seems reasonable enough since some of it pertains to piracy. but seriously no plot summaries,avatars or wallpapers? wtf?!
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2011, 02:17:46 PM »

I hate that companies do shit like that.
A lot of those things (fanfics, avatars, illustrations) help to advertise for free, so why not?
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2011, 02:29:12 PM »

Issue may lie with, especially, pornographic material perhaps.  But yeah, this border ridiculous.  I hate a lot of these claims of copyright issues and the like - it's absolutely ludicrous, as insertnamehere said, it's free advertising and helps run the fanbase behind the title.  Who thought this was conducive to "good business"?  Especially given the target market.
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 02:49:50 PM »

I've interviewed a couple of authors and when I asked one about how they feel about fanfiction he said he thought of his characters as real people in his head, with their own lives and feelings and such, so when he sees or reads them do things that are unlike them he said he fees a bit like they are being forced to do it against their will, and he feels sad about it.

Though he certainly never banned anyone from doing it.
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2011, 03:07:05 AM »

Old. Shogakukan is insane. The same goes for Shueisha. Which makes sense. Nuts don't fall far from the tree.

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The above acts, whether commercial or non-commercial in character, are acts of copyright infringement.

Not according to Dutch and many other countries' copyright laws.

Not that it really matters to them. Scare tactics can be quite effective even if the law is not on your side. Aniway, a Dutch anime/manga magazine I write for is scared shitless Shueisha or Shogakukan might one day find out that they published some unauthorised articles about some of their series years ago. It's so... so... annoying and stupid.
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2011, 10:52:13 AM »

Yeah, sounds like they're going a little overboard.

I will say, though, that I learned something a while back that made me a little more sympathetic to companies telling people off on copyright stuff.  At least in the US, part of the copyright law is that if you have a copyright on something, you HAVE to make people not use it, or you lose the copyright.  So even if you think "well hey, that daycare's not doing us any harm by painting our character on their front wall," you still have to stop them if you want to keep your copyright.  It sucks.
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2011, 06:45:33 PM »

At least in the US, part of the copyright law is that if you have a copyright on something, you HAVE to make people not use it, or you lose the copyright.  So even if you think "well hey, that daycare's not doing us any harm by painting our character on their front wall," you still have to stop them if you want to keep your copyright.  It sucks.

That's only for trademarks.  Has nothing to do with copyright.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2011, 07:17:38 PM »

D'oh! You are totally right. Got the two momentarily mixed up. Sorry for the confusion.
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