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Re: Anime/Manga Journal
« Reply #4170 on: February 08, 2017, 08:43:59 PM »
I wish they'd revive My-Otome.
That or make a completely new show like otome was to hime.

Been a decade since... I guess it's dead and buried now.
Really sad because it had a great universe and characters.

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« Reply #4171 on: February 09, 2017, 04:58:44 PM »
I read the first 5 or so volumes of Codename Sailor V (predecessor to SM)

Yeah I just straight up prefer this to SM.
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« Reply #4172 on: February 09, 2017, 09:45:50 PM »
Honestly, I read into Sailor Moon's development, and it sounds like one of those stories that could've been awesome if it weren't for frequent meddling from her editor.

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« Reply #4173 on: February 10, 2017, 03:05:05 AM »
Well it was awesome despite that, Chibiusa is not really well-liked by some sectors of SM for being an editor throw-in, for instance, but honestly SM is just so enormous and spanning, there's like 25 Senshi guardians or whatever if you include Starlights and everyone else.

But yeah Sailor V just feels like much purer and more straightforward Sailor Moon-esque deal, like, it has a lot of the same stuff at any rate it's Artemis is the cat instead of Luna, Venus is cool and confident moreso than Usagi.

I think the humor has been more funny and stuff like that, just all those things, more addicting overall.


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« Reply #4174 on: February 16, 2017, 08:31:50 PM »
Unsure how Gintama is still so good after episode 322. Its amazing unlike any other long running series there is only the occasional filler episode.

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« Reply #4175 on: February 16, 2017, 11:46:23 PM »
I guess here's where I confess I don't actually know what shoujo or 98% of the terms are involving manga are (compared to JRPGs which were there from the beginning)

Basically I know some major series and lesser known ones as well as the series themselves and associated fandoms decently but I have pretty much zero context for the A&M industry as a whole.
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« Reply #4176 on: February 17, 2017, 12:46:12 AM »
I guess here's where I confess I don't actually know what shoujo or 98% of the terms are involving manga are (compared to JRPGs which were there from the beginning)

Basically I know some major series and lesser known ones as well as the series themselves and associated fandoms decently but I have pretty much zero context for the A&M industry as a whole.

Shonen is stuff like Dragon Ball Z, One Piece, Power Levels etc. Basically stuff aimed at young boys ages 8-15.

Shoujo is for the girls. Lots of pretty boys fawning/obsessing/battling/dominating over a pretty waif who swoons a lot.

Seinen is generally for older males. Can be mature but typically goes for gore and carnage.

Jousei is for older women... (I know its the correct term, I'm just drawing a blank at a good example of it that isn't about coming out as a Lesbian or something)? Lots of handsome young men to cougar/wish-fulfillment over.

Shonen-Ai is like Shoujo, but change the waif's gender to male and make it even rapier.

Shoujo-Ai is like Shoujo, but change everybody else's gender to female instead (ironically less implied rape than Shonen-Ai).

Yuri is basically Shoujo-Ai lite. Aimed at School Girl Lesbians Males looking for hawt Girl on Girl action.

Yoai is basically Shonen-Ai....what? Are you expecting some kind of difference?

Hentai = Rape/Tentacle Rape/The Abyss/Pornography


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Re: Anime/Manga Journal
« Reply #4177 on: February 17, 2017, 01:01:57 AM »
Jousei is for older women... (I know its the correct term, I'm just drawing a blank at a good example of it that isn't about coming out as a Lesbian or something)? Lots of handsome young men to cougar/wish-fulfillment over.

What about that one where it's a woman in a crummy job and the manga is about her trying different pubs binging on food and drinking beer.

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Re: Anime/Manga Journal
« Reply #4178 on: February 17, 2017, 01:08:08 AM »
The strong demographic splits in manga are really due to the way manga is traditionally sold.  Chapters are published weekly/monthly/whatever in large magazines that have many concurrent ongoing series.  In order to sell these magazines publishers have a strong incentive to bundle together different series that they think will appeal to their target audience.  After all you might hesitate to buy the whole magazine if there's only one manga in it you actually follow, but you're more willing if there's several series in it that you care about.  So you end up with magazines that target young boys, magazines that target young girls, etc. etc.  Hence the classifications of shounen manga, shoujo manga, etc.

But really you could go even farther.  Many magazines have developed their own particular styles that they really push.  For example Shounen Jump (probably the most popular shounen magazine there is) tends to carry a very specific kind of manga...that personally I can't stand.  Just knowing that a series is in Shounen Jump is usually enough for me to lose interest.  But maybe that's just me.

I have noticed that mangas published online (which there are more and more of these days) tend to feel less confined to these categories, and can have stuff that appeals to men and women.  And there's many I would have a hard time placing in the traditional four categories.  I think that's due to the fact that it's much easier to read just the mangas you want to read online, without having to buy a bunch of unrelated ones.  So there's less pressure to have a lot of similar mangas and authors are more free to tell whatever stories they want.

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Re: Anime/Manga Journal
« Reply #4179 on: February 17, 2017, 03:03:09 AM »
Examples of josei manga available in English: With the Light, Princess Jellyfish, Honey & Clover, The Embalmer, In Clothes Called Fat...

Sometimes it's hard to tell what's shojo and what's josei as there are a number of magazines/anthologies that are read by the 16-21 crowd. Something like Kaze Hikaru could technically be called josei, but it's marketed as shojo in the US.

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Shonen-Ai is like Shoujo, but change the waif's gender to male and make it even rapier.

Shoujo-Ai is like Shoujo, but change everybody else's gender to female instead (ironically less implied rape than Shonen-Ai).

Yuri is basically Shoujo-Ai lite. Aimed at School Girl Lesbians Males looking for hawt Girl on Girl action.

Yoai is basically Shonen-Ai....what? Are you expecting some kind of difference?

This is how the terms are used nowadays:

Shonen-ai: and old term now used to refer to old-school boys love manga from the 70s and early 80s, like the stuff drawn my Moto Hagio and Keiko Takemiya.

BL: the modern word for boys love manga. Has been in use since the early 90s.

Yaoi: used in Japan to refer to fanmade boys love works (or just plain shipping) based on other series.

Yuri: pretty much a catch-all term for stories about girls in love. Girls love, or GL, is used as well sometimes. There's no clear line between what's read by what demographic and yuri as a genre evolved from shojo manga in the 70s but can also be traced back to YA literature from the 20s.

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Re: Anime/Manga Journal
« Reply #4180 on: February 17, 2017, 11:58:32 AM »
Shoujo: Girls action series
Shonen: Boys Action series
Yuri: Romantic Girl-Girl oriented series
Yaoi: Romantic Boy-Boy oriented series
Josei: Series for older women
Seinen: Series for older men
Hentai: Animated pornography

These terms were developed as marketing terms to apply to specific demographics by magazines that publish manga series, and not as a strict categorization per se. Furthermore, the terms have evolved over time.

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Re: Anime/Manga Journal
« Reply #4181 on: February 17, 2017, 12:53:15 PM »
Pretty good, though shojo and shonen cover much more than just action series. They're just a catch-all term for everything aimed at those demographics.

(Though, 'shonen' doesn't always mean a series is mostly read by boys. Shonen Jump has many female readers; it might actually be close to 50/50 by now.)

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Re: Anime/Manga Journal
« Reply #4182 on: February 17, 2017, 03:30:32 PM »
I think I could do gaming pretty well....

RPGs
Shooters/FPS
Sports
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Re: Anime/Manga Journal
« Reply #4183 on: February 17, 2017, 04:30:53 PM »
I think I could do gaming pretty well....

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Re: Anime/Manga Journal
« Reply #4184 on: February 17, 2017, 05:35:34 PM »
The biggest thing I remember about anime once upon a time was the Freiza Goku fight in DBZ. Or that is to say, that was my introduction.

I was like... wait... who is going to win this thing?

I still don't really know to be honest, wasn't Freiza floating around still just half his body?

Idk, I guess I just ended up playing a lot more JRPGs than watching anime for w/e reason.
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