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« Reply #105 on: July 23, 2011, 08:50:26 AM »

After looking at the Witcher 2 screenshots... yeah, I don't like them much either. It's not that they're ugly, but to me it enters uncanny valley. I have the same problem with games such as Mass Effect. I can't play them without thinking that there is something not quite right with the people on the screen.

So yeah, I'd rather look at anime-style visuals or cutesy sprites.

Actually I kinda know what you mean. While the more "realistic" looking games are leaps and bounds beyond what older games looked like, even Uncharted, for instance, still isn't totally representative in movements, both facial and otherwise, to real life. And to a certain extent it's almost like looking at chimps, yeah, they look and act like us but there's still that noticeable difference (a somewhat stretch yes, but still I hope you get my point). While the games which are more anime style the portrayal is less an attempt to look realistic and thus to a certain extent maybe even more "believable" as you focus less on the physical nuances, or lack thereof, and more on the personality and voice. Having said that, while typing this I did wonder if I'd feel the same if Drake looked more like Jaster....now I've confused myself.
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« Reply #106 on: July 23, 2011, 08:59:39 AM »

Yeah, characters are so detailed and human in some ways, but too fake in others. Skin is designed to be realistic and flawed enough to actually show pores and blemishes, yet it doesn't move naturally when a characters opens his or her mouth. The realism only goes skin deep.

It's kind of funny. On television, actresses have to look 'HD perfect'. There botoxed faces need to look absolutely flawless. Some don't even look like real people anymore. Videogame characters are moving in the opposite direction.
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« Reply #107 on: July 23, 2011, 09:52:24 AM »

I think this is mostly a "Graphics vs Aesthetics" thing going on here.
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« Reply #108 on: July 23, 2011, 10:33:27 AM »

I think this is mostly a "Graphics vs Aesthetics" thing going on here.

Exactly. I don't get what is so hard to understand. The Witcher 2, Mass Effect, all of these games are impressive as hell graphically. It's pretty damn incredible what people are capable of with video games today. That doesn't mean however I have to actually LIKE it. What's so hard to accept about this? Not every style works for everyone.
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« Reply #109 on: July 23, 2011, 11:28:21 AM »

Your loss.
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« Reply #110 on: July 23, 2011, 11:44:02 AM »

Your loss.

Yes, not liking something generally IS a loss. :P But such a comment is silly. No one likes everything.

"You don't like broccoli? Your loss"

"You don't like hardcore bondage bestiality porn? Your loss".
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« Reply #111 on: July 23, 2011, 12:19:51 PM »

I agree with the Witcher naysayers. Looks like a typical "brown" wrpg. I watched a trailer for it, and was bored silly. Typical emphasis on realism over style. Doesn't mean I won't try it out when it comes out on the 360. I hope it rocks. We'll see. For the record, I can't stand cutesy shit either. Just give me something with a distinctive style, and perhaps more than 4 colors. ; - )
example: Skies of Arcadia, which probably looks like crap now. It was colorful, and had a unique style.
Or maybe Dragon Quest VIII or Dark Cloud 2. Beautiful games with distinctive styles.

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« Reply #112 on: July 23, 2011, 12:28:07 PM »

So now it's lack of color? You have no idea what you're talking about. Holy shit that it so wrong that I don't even know what to say.
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« Reply #113 on: July 23, 2011, 12:44:28 PM »

OMG where's the color!?







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« Reply #114 on: July 23, 2011, 12:48:39 PM »

InfranView. Learn to love it. Resize pictures in less than 20 seconds and avoid page stretching. XD

And while "brown" isn't the word I would use from the shots you posted I think I can gather the general gist of why the aesthetic is disliked. It's very naturey and when compared to the colors used in most JRPGs the Witcher does seem to come off as sort of "muted". Not a bad thing mind you; more realistic and what not but some people (myself included) like the pop and flash of an unnatural color set compared to a more soothing one.
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« Reply #115 on: July 23, 2011, 12:52:38 PM »

Why do you care so much what other people's tastes are? There is no one here who is saying they are bad, simply that they don't much care for them. Why is that such a big deal? Will it stop me from playing this game? No. But not one screen you've shown, or I've seen has struck me in any way that I like.
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« Reply #116 on: July 23, 2011, 12:57:03 PM »

Lack of color isn't subjective, it's fact and as someone who has played the game several times I don't accept someone who has never touched it telling me that the game has a limited color pallete. But you're right, I'm wasting my time, people might think I actually benefit from the game's sales.
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« Reply #117 on: July 23, 2011, 12:57:39 PM »

I dunno, I find it about as absurd as people writing off games for having an anime aesthetic. You get cheated out of a lot of great experiences if the aesthetic can bother you that much.

That being said if the aesthetic isn't just 'boring' but abhorrent to you, it's probably a good chance you won't be able to get past it.
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« Reply #118 on: July 23, 2011, 01:04:19 PM »

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OMG where's the color!?

Nice trees. But you know what? I can see even nicer trees if I look out of my window.
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« Reply #119 on: July 23, 2011, 01:07:42 PM »

Levyur, I love anime aesthetic when done right, just to give an example Catherine will be my next purchase. Nobody is writing them off.

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Nice trees. But you know what? I can see even nicer trees if I look out of my window.

OK, that's where I take my leave.
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